zakup samochodu z www.autoscout24.de

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Witam wszystkich. chcialbym was przestrzec przed kupnem taniego, dobrze wyposazonego auta za pomoca autoscout24. Ja sie zdecydowalem i ponioslem strate w wysokosci 3000 euro. zawsze uwazalem sie za osobe rozsadna, wyczulona na oszustwa a jednak. zalaczam calosc e-mail'i jakie byly miedzy nami. przepraszam ze nie przetlumaczylem, ale mysle ze bedzie to dla was ulatwienie, gybyscie mieli "okazyjnie" tanio kupic auto.
p.s.
admin odniosl sie do sprawy na :
http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/...t=devid+iustin


1. e-mail

Hello,
The car has never been damaged and it is in very good condition.
The car is at this low price because I have to sell it fast to buy myself a car at a good deal here where I work.
It is registred in Germany and it has German papers.
I have moved with my work to England and my jobs reqiures some travel.I have found a car
here at a good price but I do not have funds to buy it with cash.
For that I have to sell this one. The car can be inspected by you at your local dealer or car service.
We will use Autoscout24 for this so we can have a safe deal and your money and my car can be safe .
Email me back if you want to make a great deal with me
Please keep this conversation in english


2nd

Hi,
If you will decide to buy the car i will send the car to you free at yourhome address, (I will handle the delivery costs).
We will make this transaction using AUTOSCOUT24.You will be contacted by Autoscout24 representance of London.They send you SALE CONFIRMATION INVOICE.The money has to be transfered into Autoscout24`s bank account.
As soon as they got into their account I will start the delivery and you will get the car in your country in maximum 2-3 days.The company which I`m going to use for transport is DHL shipping company.You will receive the car with the ZOLL number so you can drive the car for 30 days with this number ,after that you will have to register the car in your country and put your city number on it.
When Autoscout24 will receive the confirmation that you decided to buy the car after those 5 days of inspection, they will transfer the money to me.I am an honest person and I expect the same from you, I want to be safe also because you are safe.
YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY THE CAR WHEN THEY WILL SEND YOU THE CONFIRMATION IN YOUR E-MAIL NOT WHEN YOU RECEIVE THE CAR AT YOUR ADRESS.
If there is something you don't like about the car in any way you can simply contact Autosocut24 and they will send you the money back and i will have to pay the shipping taxes to get the
car back from you. Tell me if you understand and agree and to get into the deal because I want to be sure about this and I will have to pay 380 Euro to DHL for shipping. Please think very well concerning my offer.If you agree to do it reply me with your full name and address and tell number where you want it to be shipped.


3rd.

Hi,
Thanks for your choice by making this deal with me.Now please until you are contacted by
Autoscout to go further.They will contact the shipping company with your details.
Please email me after you were emailed by Autoscout.Please cooperate with them.
Thanks for your time!


4th.

Send the payment by Wire Transfer to the autoscout24.com agent:
AutoScout24.com sales manager bank account informations
(informations from the account where you need to transfer the payment):
Account Holder: Norbert Kiss
Sort Code: 20-20-37
Account Number: 23385825
IBAN: GB15 BARC 2020 3723 3858 25
Swift-BIC: BARCGB22
Bank Name: Barclays Bank , Branch: Cheshunt

Your reply must include:

To complete the transfer of money you must go to your bank and transfer the payment in this account.
After you complete the transfer of funds we request the following details: send by email the scaned invoice from your bank (you will receive it from your bank after the transfer is done).

The funds will not be released under any circumstances! We will hold the payment until you will send us your confirmation that you have received, inspected and you agree to keep the merchandise. When we will have your confirmation we will transfer the funds to the seller. If the merchandise it is not what was described you will ship it back to the seller and we will refund your money 100%.

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oto nowe mozliwosci zaplaty, jakie oferuja nam pseudowlasciciele. trzeba przyznac ze ten przyklad jest bardzo sprytny. nalezy jednak pamitac ze im nie chodzi o nasz pieniadze, ale o dane osobowe. e-maile zalaczam ponizej.
zamierzam tak robic z kazdym podejrzanym mailem jaki napotkam w internecie - www.autoscout24.de
pozdrawiam


1. e-mail

Audi A3, 4/5-puertas, 08/2006 {{{SLine}}}+++++
Dear Buyer,
The car is like new , almost all the time was keep it in the garage, also my price for the car is 3.150 Euros .The car is located in Pisa,Italy and is keep it in verry good condition in one garage.The car have only 2.000 Km on it real and never was been involed in any accidents.It has no scratches or something else damage at the motor and have all the periodic revision at the time because i have the originaly service book and you can se there .I am the fisr owner of the car and don`t have any leasing or another thinks, i have all the papres ready for a register at new buyer, also the car have INSURANCE so you can runn verry good with the car in your country without problems.

So if you are agree E-mail Me !!!

Thanks



2 e-mail

Hello Mr ......
Feew weeks ago somebody from Germany told to me that want to buy my car.I told him that is Ok,we will meet in Pisa and we will make the deal.I was in Pisa in the next day but no buyer,never respond to my emails or to my calls so here is what i am sugessting to you:
With this service i am sure that you have the money and that you will come for sure in Pisa.
This service name is Western Union Money Transfer (www.westernunion.com).
You must find the nearest Western Union agency and you will go there with your best friend or your wife. Your wife or your friend will be the sender and the receiver is you in Pisa ,Italy.
I want to be 100 % sure that you will be in Pisa because once the money are sent you have to be in Pisa to get the money.
Right now i am located in UK/London but after i will get the receipt from WU i will come back in Pisa to wait you and to finish the deal.That's why i need to see the receipt.I don't want to buy the plane ticket to come and then to wait you and maybe you will never come.
If i will see the receipt then i will be sure that you will come and i will go to buy the ticket plane for Pisa .
After the transfer is made you must scan the receipt from WU and then send it in to my e-mail address attached so i can check.If you are agree then i will keep the car for you and after i will see the copy from Western Union then in max.1 day i will come back in Pisa to wait you.
As soon as i will see the copy from Western Union i will go and i will buy the plane ticket for Pisa .After that i will send you the copy so you can be sure that i am not joking and that i will be in the same day in Pisa .
When you will meet in Pisa we will go to a mechanic to confirm you that the car is OK and to Police so they can tell you that the car it's not stolen.I will transfer the documents from the car to you and after that we will both go to Western Union to get the money sended by your wife or friend in Pisa/Italy.
If something is wrong with this car then i will give you 1000 Euros for your trip and for your time so please troust me because the car it's like new.
Western Union take comission for sending the money.This is not a problem because when we will meet in Pisa i will give you back the money which you have paid for sending the money to Italy.
I will be waiting your call to discuss the details at: 0040 751 50 82 73

Thank`s

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Wyslalem do tej osoby towar ktora chciala i powiedziala ze pieniadze sa w banku - Citybak wiec zaryzykowalem wysylkem, i czekalem na potwierdzenie ale nie przyczytala uwaznie opis w jezyku polskim i potem napisala ze byla uzywana i chce zebym kupil PSP nowa, Chcialem zeby czesc pieniedzy wyslala, ale ta osoba nie chce i chce cala sume. Wiec sie wacham zeby nie poniesc straty problem jest taki ze nie wiem jak ta osobe sprawdzic i zaczyna mnie grozic ze jak nie wysle to powiadomi FBI interpol. To co napisal e emailu:

Macie jakis pomysl co mam robic?? Czy jest jakis kontakt w FBI interpol?


Whats the ****ing hell is wrong with you after my money has been deducted from my account now you dont want to buy the PSP in other for the money to be transfered into your account i will like you to know that i cant let my money to be deposited and you dont want to send my pack so now i will contact the FBI interpol by monday morning for your information,..........so await them at your location..

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Originally Posted by start

Wyslalem do tej osoby towar ktora chciala i powiedziala ze pieniadze sa w banku - Citybak wiec zaryzykowalem wysylkem, i czekalem na potwierdzenie ale nie przyczytala uwaznie opis w jezyku polskim i potem napisala ze byla uzywana i chce zebym kupil PSP nowa, Chcialem zeby czesc pieniedzy wyslala, ale ta osoba nie chce i chce cala sume. Wiec sie wacham zeby nie poniesc straty problem jest taki ze nie wiem jak ta osobe sprawdzic i zaczyna mnie grozic ze jak nie wysle to powiadomi FBI interpol. To co napisal e emailu:

Macie jakis pomysl co mam robic?? Czy jest jakis kontakt w FBI interpol?


Whats the ****ing hell is wrong with you after my money has been deducted from my account now you dont want to buy the PSP in other for the money to be transfered into your account i will like you to know that i cant let my money to be deposited and you dont want to send my pack so now i will contact the FBI interpol by monday morning for your information,..........so await them at your location..

Jesli wystawiales towar na aukcji internetowej to zadzwon do nich i dowiedz sie jak nabycie towaru wyglada od strony prawnej - te informacje mozesz tez znalezc w ogolnych warunkach umowy swiadczonych przy okazji tranzakcji internetowych. Ty, jako sprzedajacy jestes zobowiazany do dostarczenia towaru takiego, jaki byl w ofercie - jesli opisales ze ma wady, czy byl uzywany, to nie ma powodu do zmartwien. On jak nabywca jest zobowiazany do zapoznania sie z oferta i nie moze oczekiwac nic wiecej niz tego co oferta zawiera. jesli nie doczytal czy nie zrozumial to nie moze byc podstawa do roszczen.
Inna rzecz to kwestia odzyskania przez Ciebie pieniedzy, obawiam sie ze nie ma szans. Trafiles na zwyklego naciagacza. Przykro mi.
pozdrawiam

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kolejny oszust. nie bede podawal calosci korespondencji - jest podobna do wczesniej zamieszczonej. umieszcze tylko dane osoby, na ktora mialbym przelac pieniadze. mam nadzieje ze dzieki temu ciezko bedzie mu kogokolwiek oszukac:


"niby sprzedawca"
Name: George Splim
Address: 59 bath street
City: London
Country: United Kingdom
Postal Code: SE45RE

"niby agent autoscout24" a tak naprawde oszust, ktory podejmie wasze pieniadze

First name: Thomas
Last name: Zaman
Address: 144 Churchfield Road
City: London
Zip code W3 6AH
Country: United Kingdom

ten chcial aby przeslac mu pieniadze za pomoca Western Union. jesli ktos bedzie chcial zapoznac sie z caloscia korespondencji, prosze o kontakt

Piekne dzieki za wszystkie informacje! Jutro dodam tutaj troche danych i wyjasnien.

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Kolejny, mozecie go sprawdzic. Ponizej zalaczam ostatni mail z danymi kupca, "agenta firmy" i danymi firmy. pozdrawiam


Dear Customer,

We wish you welcome to Europe Delivery .
You are now one of our customers.
As per your agreement with mr Eduard Baotic we are sending you the payment invoice for your waiting vehicle wich is in our posession. Through this e-mail we have the pleasure to inform you that the merchandise has been left in our custody, the shipping fee was paid by the Seller and the transaction is ready to start.

Our company reduces risks associated with Internet transactions by acting as a licensed, trusted, neutral third party for online transactions. The Seller leaves the merchandise into Europe Delivery custody. The merchandise will remain in Europe Delivery custody until the Buyer provides the payment informations to Europe Delivery. The payment must be made through a Money Order Service on the name of our Payment Agent. Once the funds are verified by Europe Delivery, the merchandise will be delivered to the Buyer. Once the Buyer receives the merchandise and try it for 10 days, the payment will be released to the Seller only if the Buyer is completely satisfied with the merchandise. If the Buyer will not be satisfied with the merchandise, Europe Delivery will deliver the merchandise back to the Seller at the Seller's expense.
In the United Kingdom, Europe Delivery`s worldwide delivery services are provided by Europe Delivery. With 170 depots in the United Kingdom, provide the closest customer contact with a specially trained staff dedicated to customer satisfaction.

Address Information:

Ship To: Shiper:
Name ................. Name Eduard Baotic
Address ............................. Address 4 Hardwicke Street
City City ............................ Dublin
Postal Code ....................... [b] Postal Code Dublin 1 [/B
Country ............................ Country IRELAND

Shipment and payment informations:

Shipment information 50% of the payment must be made to our Payment Agent( EUR 4.000must be sent ):
Service: Truck Delive Name: Dominic Hugo
From: Europe Delivery Address: Aert van Nesstraat 18
Vehicle: Audi A4 Avant 2.0 TDi City Rotterdam Order ID: 40394111981 Postal Code 3012 CA
Tracking: DLS94592633007371733310 Country NETHERLANDS
Price: EUR 8000(EUR4000 Deposit)

Steps to follow for submiting payment:
Payment method insured* and approved for this transaction:Wire Transfer.
* Sending the payment by any other method will void this transaction and your right to refund!
Wire Transfer is the only service that has ultimate authentication of the identity of the receiver of funds. Several ID's and utility bills have been required before the funds are paid. Therefore, no one else but our EuropeDelivery agent can pick up the money. Your payments cannot be lost in the mail, like money orders or checks.

Step 1: Buyer and Seller Agree to Terms
Both parties agree to terms of the transaction, which includes a description of the merchandise, sale price, number of days for the Buyer's inspection, and company Transaction information.

Step 2: Buyer Sends Payment to company verifyed agent.
( Click here for payment instructions )
The Buyer submits a payment selecting wire transfer. Our agency verifies the payment.
Processing time for payment is 24 hours.
Confirmation e-mail: EuropeDelivery@europe.com
Confirmation fax number:+44 179 330 0214

Step 3: Seller Ships Merchandise to Buyer and the Seller will pay all the taxes.
Upon payment verification, the Seller is authorized to ship the merchandise and submit tracking information. United-Straight verifies that the Buyer receives the merchandise. Delivery times vary by Transaction company.

Step 4: Buyer Receives Merchandise
The Buyer has a set number of days for inspecting the merchandise and the option to accept or reject.

Step 5 : If the Buyer is not satisfied, he must notify our agency of company problems with the merchandise before the end of the inspection period. A solution to most problems can usually be negotiated between the Buyer and Seller. If this is not possible, the Buyer must return the merchandise to the Seller (at Seller`s cost) using the method in which the item was shipped to the Buyer.

Step 6 : EuropeDelivery Pays Seller.

For security reasons please DO NOT release the payment details to the Seller or any other unauthorized person.
Protection for both Buyer and Seller
-Buyers receive and inspect the merchandise before the Seller is paid.
-Sellers receive their money if the Buyer accepts the merchandise.

All the transaction, payment and personal information is considered confidential and will not be released under any circumstances.
Purchase Protection program security measures are constantly reviewed and modified given evolving circumstances globally.
Our main and constant priority is the safety of our customers.
When payment is received, it will be verified and secured into a non-interest bearing trust account. Payment verification process usually takes less than 24 hours. After payment is secured, we are authorized to ship you the item.

The Payment Informations about the Western Union Money Transfer must be sent to us for verification.

The Payment Informations that you need to send us are:
-Money Transfer Control Number.
-Sender's Name and Receiver's Name.
-Both Seller and buyer address.
-Amount Sent.

Confirmation e-mail: EuropeDelivery@europe.com
Confirmation fax number: +44 179 330 0214 ( you can send us a scanned copy of your WesternUnion receipt ).

The Seller is unable to receive any information regarding the payment data.

This action is restricted by a mutual agreement between the Seller and EuropeDelivery.



This e-mail message was sent to you from EuropeDelivery. The seller was informed about this transaction being started and we are waiting the deposit payment confirmation. It is recommended to send us the payment as soon as possible.

Sincerely
EuropeDelivery Support

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i jeszcze jeden, niby z DHL:

Payment Request


DHL United Kingdom
*Contact us at:customer@dhl.uk.net

DHL WorldwideExpress Package Confirmation and Payment Request Form



Dear customer,

The payment EUR 5000 should be sent into our acreditated Bank Account:

Full name: DANIELA SALGADO - (DHL INC. Co. agent)


Account number: 11506326

Swift code (BIC): NWBKGB2L

Sort code: 60-04-36

Iban: GB15 NWBK60043611506326

Bank Address:CATFORD BRANCH,159 RUSHEY GREEN,SE6 4BJ,LONDON.

Bank Name: NATWEST BANK

Country: UNITED KINGDOM

The package will be shipped out within 6-8 hours after you'll wire the money to us and you will have a free delivery to your home address in max. 4 working days.
After the payment was done please send us a reply to this e-mail.

Phone & FAX: +44-20-7900-2908


After we will receive your payment details we will start the procedure and the car will be sent to your address as soon as posible.

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i jeszcze jeden, ta sama firma transportowa - Eurpoe delivery - , strona internetowa itp., wydaja sie przekonujace, martwi mnie tylko przelew przez Western Union. Wiecie cos o tej firmie ?

We wish you welcome to Europe Delivery .
You are now one of our customers.
As per your agreement with mr Georg Ludwig we are sending you the payment invoice for your waiting vehicle wich is in our posession. Through this e-mail we have the pleasure to inform you that the merchandise has been left in our custody, the shipping fee was paid by the Seller and the transaction is ready to start.

Our company reduces risks associated with Internet transactions by acting as a licensed, trusted, neutral third party for online transactions. The Seller leaves the merchandise into Europe Delivery custody. The merchandise will remain in Europe Delivery custody until the Buyer provides the payment informations to Europe Delivery. The payment must be made through a Money Order Service on the name of our Payment Agent. Once the funds are verified by Europe Delivery, the merchandise will be delivered to the Buyer. Once the Buyer receives the merchandise and try it for 10 days, the payment will be released to the Seller only if the Buyer is completely satisfied with the merchandise. If the Buyer will not be satisfied with the merchandise, Europe Delivery will deliver the merchandise back to the Seller at the Seller's expense.
In the United Kingdom, Europe Delivery`s worldwide delivery services are provided by Europe Delivery. With 170 depots in the United Kingdom, provide the closest customer contact with a specially trained staff dedicated to customer satisfaction.

Address Information:

Shiper:
Name Georg Ludwig
Address 93 Ailesbury Road
City Dublin
Postal Code Dublin 2
Country IRELAND

Shipment and payment informations:

Shipment information 50% of the payment must be made to our Payment Agent( EUR 3,850.00must be sent ):
Service: Truck Delivery Name: Peter Soreck
From: Europe Delivery Address: Westblaak 83
Vehicle: 2006 Volkswagen Passat Variant 2.0 TDI Highline 14.920 km City Rotterdam
Order ID: 47082907913 Postal Code 3012 KK
Tracking: DRD89306904403548006076 Country NETHERLANDS
Price: EUR 3,850.00

Steps to follow for submiting payment:
Payment method insured* and approved for this transaction:Wire Transfer.
* Sending the payment by any other method will void this transaction and your right to refund!
Wire Transfer is the only service that has ultimate authentication of the identity of the receiver of funds. Several ID's and utility bills have been required before the funds are paid. Therefore, no one else but our EuropeDelivery agent can pick up the money. Your payments cannot be lost in the mail, like money orders or checks.

Step 1: Buyer and Seller Agree to Terms
Both parties agree to terms of the transaction, which includes a description of the merchandise, sale price, number of days for the Buyer's inspection, and company Transaction information.

Step 2: Buyer Sends Payment to company verifyed agent.
( Click here for payment instructions )
The Buyer submits a payment selecting wire transfer. Our agency verifies the payment.
Processing time for payment is 24 hours.
Confirmation e-mail: EuropeDelivery@europe.com
Confirmation fax number:+44 179 330 0214

Step 3: Seller Ships Merchandise to Buyer and the Seller will pay all the taxes.
Upon payment verification, the Seller is authorized to ship the merchandise and submit tracking information. United-Straight verifies that the Buyer receives the merchandise. Delivery times vary by Transaction company.

Step 4: Buyer Receives Merchandise
The Buyer has a set number of days for inspecting the merchandise and the option to accept or reject.

Step 5 : If the Buyer is not satisfied, he must notify our agency of company problems with the merchandise before the end of the inspection period. A solution to most problems can usually be negotiated between the Buyer and Seller. If this is not possible, the Buyer must return the merchandise to the Seller (at Seller`s cost) using the method in which the item was shipped to the Buyer.

All the transaction, payment and personal information is considered confidential and will not be released under any circumstances.
Purchase Protection program security measures are constantly reviewed and modified given evolving circumstances globally.
Our main and constant priority is the safety of our customers.
When payment is received, it will be verified and secured into a non-interest bearing trust account. Payment verification process usually takes less than 24 hours. After payment is secured, we are authorized to ship you the item.

The Payment Informations about the Western Union Money Transfer must be sent to us for verification.

The Payment Informations that you need to send us are:
-Money Transfer Control Number.
-Sender's Name and Receiver's Name.
-Both Seller and buyer address.
-Amount Sent.

Confirmation e-mail: EuropeDelivery@europe.com
Confirmation fax number: +44 179 330 0214 ( you can send us a scanned copy of your WesternUnion receipt ).

The Seller is unable to receive any information regarding the payment data.

This action is restricted by a mutual agreement between the Seller and EuropeDelivery.

This e-mail message was sent to you from EuropeDelivery. The seller was informed about this transaction being started and we are waiting the deposit payment confirmation. It is recommended to send us the payment as soon as possible.

Sincerely
EuropeDelivery Support


tutaj mail od wlasciciela pojazdu:

Hi, I am glad to let you know I have initiate the transaction through Europe Delivery Ltd .
The car was shipped today using this company, Europe Delivery Ltd . Here is the tracking number for the transaction # DRD89306904403548006076
The insurance company for the car is ING Insurance.
At delivery the car will include the following documents: Brief, Certificate of Conformity (COC) , Certificate of Origin, service book,Warranty book, Original invoice from Germany of the car, and all the keys and codes for the car.
You can also check, at all times, the status of the package on this website: http://europedelivery.eu.tp After that, you need to follow the instructions from the company in order to complete this bussines. You also need to know that the vehicule will remain in custody of Europe Delivery Ltd . until you will manage to submit payment to them.
Please submit payment as soon as possible so we can finalize transaction.
Waiting news from your side

pozdrawiam

Dzieki za posty! Banki ktore podales zostaly powiadomione o tych rachunkach.

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Originally Posted by Aeval

Dzieki za posty! Banki ktore podales zostaly powiadomione o tych rachunkach.

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hmm nie wiem czy pisze w tym poscie co chcialam - jestem tu pierwszy raz
to co wyrabia sie z autami na autoscout24 to po prostu przegiecia.
szukalam pare dni temu VW multivana. odpowiedzialam na ogloszenie, po czym odpowiedz przyszla blyskawicznie - mieszkal w berlinie, przeprowadzil sie do anglii, kierownica po lewej.. no i wiadomo co dalej - auto w super stanie, wyposazenie marzenie... najlepsze jest to, ze pan josef pisal pieknym niemieckim..
zapytalam o odbior osobisty.. - odpisal maila, ze auto wysle, a o odbiorze ani slowa..
no to poprosilam o przeslanie kopi "briefu" - odpowiedzial, ze spedycja prosila go o nieudostepnianie zadnych info o aucie przed wysylka auta hehe
dodam ze te dwa ostatnie maile byly pisane niemieckim ale lamanym.. jak mu odpisalam, ze od niego auto kupuje a nie od spedycji, to spytal czy place czy nie.. cos mu tam odpowiedzialam, ale juz nie pamietam, po czym slad po nim zaginal ...
ciekawosc mnie zzerala, wiec odezwalam sie do niego z fikcyjnego maila
pierwsza wiadomosc identyczna, ja tym razem napalona na zakup auta (tak mu przynajmniej napisalam ) to on skierowal mnie na OSTROMAIL.COM - firma spedycyjna od 2001 w anglii - tam mam sie zalogowac i wplacic 30% wartosci.
strona piekna !!! wyglada profesjonalnie, wiec nie jeden dalby sie nabrac.
sprawdzilam domene i okazalo sie, ze zgloszona 03.03.2007 roku. w google jej nie mozna znalezc, ani jednej wzmianki o rzekomej firmie spedycyjnej, ktora prawdopodobnie jest jedna z najwiekszych i najbardziej renomowanych w anglii
na tym nie koniec moich przygod. juz z wlasnej ciekawosci odpowiadzialam na pare innych ogloszen o podobnej tresci (okolo 5 ) - trafnosc w oszustow - 100%
maile, ktore dostalam byly wszystkie tym razem po angielsku.
jednej kobicie zmarl brat - sprzedaje jego auto, drugi sie wyprowadzil z berlina -w anglii mu nie potrzene, trzecie auto trzeba odebrac we wloszech a gosciu siedzi w anglii...
szok.
wszysce chcieli zaliczki za auto, jeden mial nawet 3 zainteresowanych, wiec musialam sie szybko decydowac
dobra, nie bede zasmucac.. dodam tylko, ze przy niektorych ogloszeniach byly numery telefonow - jak zadzwonilam to odezwal sie urzed w stuttgarcie
mojej znajomej za to bundestag hahahahaha - lepsza byla
jakby ktos mial pytania to moze sie odezwac
NIE DAJCIE SIE NABRAC !!!
pozdrawiam monika
ps. to co napisalam to po to, zeby ostrzec przed strona z ostromail.com
aaa i nie ma czegos takiego jak przeprowadzenie transakcji przez autoscout24 !!!
jezeli sprzedawca nie zgadza sie na osobisty odbior, to trzeba miec oczy otwarte i najlepiej nie wdawac sie w dalsza dyskusje !!!

Są na Autoscout24, mobile.de, i wielu wielu innych giełdach internetowych.
Na szczęście nie udało mi się zakupić super auta za 3000 Euro, bo z kolegą informatykiem sprawdziłem dogłębnie stronę internetową firmy transportowej z ktòrej niby dostałem maila z numerem przewozowym. Okazało się że strona ta została "postawiona" kilka minut po tym jak wysłałem maila z decyzją o zakupie. a numer przewozowy ktòry się wpisało w "dziale tracking" był jedynym jaki był zaprogramowany do wpisania

Ja specjalnie zaczepiałem takie podejrzanie super okazje i oto co udało mi się zebrać.

Podam kilka maili z ktòrych piszą Ci oszuści i nazwiska jakimi się posługują:
1. - Markus Welberg <mwelberg29@googlemail.com> - wysyła niby firmą transportową "Europe Delivery Ltd."
2 - Denis Wallach - deniswallach@yahoo.com - transakcje zabezpieczone niby poprzez firmę autoscout24
3 - Hudson Peter hudsonp_1975@yahoo.co.uk -
4 - Tomase Guy" tomase01guy@yahoo.com
5 - Joe Makin joe-makin@hotmail.com
6 - Terry Martins" trop.cool@hotmail.com
7 - Michel Vanheule vanheulemichel@yahoo.de
8 - Aly Jo aly-jo@hotmail.com
9 - Carlos Moreno carlosito_moreno@yahoo.com
10 - Karton Aburi karton1sell@gmail.com
11 - Loyer2006@aol.com
12 - Eric Shaw crau49@office-dateien.de
13 - Charles Heine charles_heine21@yahoo.de
14 - Tom Bigan bbigantom@yahoo.de firma niby transportowa to
Aberdeen Express Worldwidecom
http://aberdeen-express-worldwidecom.../en/index.html


Uważajcie i nie dajcie się zrobić w balona !!!!!!

Zapomniałem napisać w poprzednim poście że mam namiary na gościa ktòry oczekuje teraz na kasę ode mnie, spodziewa się wpłaty poprzez Western Union
a oto jego dane:

First name : Paul
Last name : Sloan
Address : 183 Albert Quay
Zip/Code : AB11 5QA
City : Aberdeen
Country : United Kingdom

Gdyby ktoś z policji czy nie wiem skąd raczył sprawdzić co to za człowiek działał na mailu bbigantom@yahoo.de (to prawdopodobnie ten oszust) to gdyby zainicjować wspòlnie z Western Union akcję podstawienia transakcji to można by go szybko schwytać...tymbardziej że mogę podtrzymać korespondencję i umawiałem się z nim że wpłacę kasę dziś lub najpòźniej jutro tj. 4-5 czerwca 2007. Gdyby ktoś chciał gościa złapać to mogę do niego napisać i niby wstrzymać jeszcze kilka dni wpłatę, żeby dać czas właściwym organom na procedury...w razie potrzeby proszę o kontakt na mail: ernee26@o2.pl

(do moderatora: fajnie by było gdyby dane i nazwiska oraz maile i nazwy firm ktòre wymieniłem w poprzednim poście pojawiały się po wpisaniu np. w Googlach, bo inaczej te moje rozpisywanie się nie ma sensu - dziś dostałem maila od jednego z wcześniej wymienionych oszustòw i zbieg okoliczności że po wpisaniu nazwy pseudofirmy transportowej znalazłem na google odnośnik do Waszej stronki)

Hi, please could you write your experiences with this devid iustin and buying a car from him in english? He's sending me the same emails as he sent to you. I really don't know if I should believe him or not. I'm affraid I'm gonna loose the money with no car.. Thank you, greetings Sebik

Originally Posted by Unregistered sebik

Hi, please could you write your experiences with this devid iustin and buying a car from him in english? He's sending me the same emails as he sent to you. I really don't know if I should believe him or not. I'm affraid I'm gonna loose the money with no car.. Thank you, greetings Sebik

devid iustin it's a bilked as well thief. Be careful

Cześć Ernee!

Niestety, Western Union kompletnie się tego typu sprawami nie interesuje. Pròbowaliśmy już kilkanaście razy dotrzeć do nich, niestety rezultaty były zawsze opłakane.

Podobnie jest z policją. Naciągactwa internetowe nie są dla nich priorytetem.

Najlepszym sposobem na dobranie się tym kryminałom do skòry jest publikowanie ich danych - dokładnie to co sam zrobiłeś. Informacje ktòre użytkownicy zostawiają na naszym forum pojawiają sie na Google bardzo szybjko, często już po godzinie lub dwòch.

Dzieki temu że spędziłeś czas na zostawienie postu na naszym forum, wielu ludzi bedzię wkròtce miało dostęp do tych informacji.

Na szczęście nie udało mi się zakupić super auta za 3000 Euro, bo z kolegą informatykiem sprawdziłem dogłębnie stronę internetową firmy transportowej z ktòrej niby dostałem maila z numerem przewozowym. Okazało się że strona ta została "postawiona" kilka minut po tym jak wysłałem maila z decyzją o zakupie. a numer przewozowy ktòry się wpisało w "dziale tracking" był jedynym jaki był zaprogramowany do wpisania

Twòj kolega informatyk to mądra głowa. To co zrobiliście jest jednym z najprostszych sposobòw sprawdzenia czy dana strona internetowa jest legalna. Świetna robota!

[ROMEO77]

I found some amazing cars on WWW.mobile.de but the sellers do not want to give locations because (they say) they only sell by shipping companies. Does anybody know eventually people as "Eric Peter" <petereriico33@yahoo.com> , Johann Tosch" <johanntosch96@yahoo.com>, Fischer Georg Ludwig" <fischerludw31@googlemail.com or or the Europe Delivery Ltd. companyfor shipping, from Uk I guess...? I really don't know if a can trust them or not ...

Heya Romeo,

From Autoscout forums:

Re: Autobetrug (zum x.ten mal)
gesendet: 05 Jun 2007 08:18 AM
Hallo alle,

habe euch auch noch einen...
immer die gleiche Geschichte: aus beruflichen Gründen nach England gezogen, heisst Georg Ludwig Fischer (schreibt aber nur in Englisch!), will 50% vorab, etc.
Hier noch die e-mail-adresse: fischerludw31@googlemail.com

Lasst euch nicht ver***en!

Original post here:

http://forum.autoscout24.de/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=9818

The poster above identifies the e-mail address as one used in connection with a 419 scam, and warns other people to not to get in business with the person behind that email address.

In general, buying cars on the internet exposes you to huge risks. Personally, I would not buy a car that I cannot inspect in person. Anyone who states that they only "deal through shipping companies" should be treated with utmost suspicion.

[tjank]

Originally Posted by Ernee

Są na Autoscout24, mobile.de, i wielu wielu innych giełdach internetowych.
Na szczęście nie udało mi się zakupić super auta za 3000 Euro, bo z kolegą informatykiem sprawdziłem dogłębnie stronę internetową firmy transportowej z ktòrej niby dostałem maila z numerem przewozowym. Okazało się że strona ta została "postawiona" kilka minut po tym jak wysłałem maila z decyzją o zakupie. a numer przewozowy ktòry się wpisało w "dziale tracking" był jedynym jaki był zaprogramowany do wpisania

Ja specjalnie zaczepiałem takie podejrzanie super okazje i oto co udało mi się zebrać.

Podam kilka maili z ktòrych piszą Ci oszuści i nazwiska jakimi się posługują:
1. - Markus Welberg <mwelberg29@googlemail.com> - wysyła niby firmą transportową "Europe Delivery Ltd."
2 - Denis Wallach - deniswallach@yahoo.com - transakcje zabezpieczone niby poprzez firmę autoscout24
3 - Hudson Peter hudsonp_1975@yahoo.co.uk -
4 - Tomase Guy" tomase01guy@yahoo.com
5 - Joe Makin joe-makin@hotmail.com
6 - Terry Martins" trop.cool@hotmail.com
7 - Michel Vanheule vanheulemichel@yahoo.de
8 - Aly Jo aly-jo@hotmail.com
9 - Carlos Moreno carlosito_moreno@yahoo.com
10 - Karton Aburi karton1sell@gmail.com
11 - Loyer2006@aol.com
12 - Eric Shaw crau49@office-dateien.de
13 - Charles Heine charles_heine21@yahoo.de
14 - Tom Bigan bbigantom@yahoo.de firma niby transportowa to
Aberdeen Express Worldwidecom
http://aberdeen-express-worldwidecom.../en/index.html


Uważajcie i nie dajcie się zrobić w balona !!!!!!

gratuluje i pozdrawiam. Sam ostatnio malo sie udzielam - nawal pracy. Mam nadzieje ze niedlugo to sie zmieni i wspolnie bedziemy tropic amatorow naszych pieniedzy.