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31 October 2011, 16:06
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support@clickandbuy.ca / clickandbuy-transaction@financier.com / Rental Fraud
First off, thanks so much for posting this. Saved me a lot of trouble I'm sure. I just wanted to follow up with the scam I found myself in which seemed very close to what all of you have described. Instead of a Macbook this was for an apartment in Chicago on craigslist.
The man (Greg Martkens is what he went by) had a place in the downtown area of Chicago for a very reasonable price. He said his wife and him recently moved to London because of his job as a civil engineer and would not be back for at least 4 years. For the most part it seemed legitimate until he used the same exact phrase that everyone seems to be posting:
Since at this moment I'm in London, United Kingdom and obviously we need a safe way to complete this deal.The solution is a worldwide third party company called CLICKANDBUY ( www.clickandbuy.com) ,they will provide assistance in handling the payment and delivery of the rental package.
he explained that he would send the keys and a contract to clickandbuy and they would contact me and ask me to send $800. They would then send me the keys etc. so I could check the apartment out and then if I didn't like it they would send me the money back and soon as they received the keys. (fishy I think so)
I right away said I wasn't interested after doing some research. He came back with an email saying he had had an account with clickandbuy for years and it was 100% protected. He sent me a "clickandbuy" email to get the transaction started even though I had said no thank you. I clicked on the email just for kicks and it was a link to a site called clickandbuy-ca.com much like many of you had been reporting.
Just wanted to put that out there for anyone who runs into the same situation. Thanks again for the posts on this forum page!
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31 October 2011, 17:36
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http://clickandbuy-ca.com (Fake Escrow Fraud)
support@clickandbuy-ca.com
Domain Name: CLICKANDBUY-CA.COM
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.enom.com
Referral URL: http://www.enom.com
Name Server: DNS1.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS2.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS3.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS4.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS5.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 23-mar-2011
Creation Date: 04-apr-2009
Expiration Date: 04-apr-2012
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31 October 2011, 18:10
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Similar Fraud
Thank you all of you guys!!! You saved my time and money.
I was looking for a house for rent in Kamloops when i found this add on craigslist ( http://kamloops.en.craigslist.ca/apa/2653506051.html). After contacting the guy I got similar emails.
First Email:
Hello,
Thank you for your interest in my apartment located in 1390 Hillside Dr, Kamloops, BC, Canada. The apartment is in excellent condition and it's just like in the pictures, very clean and very well taken. Honestly from point of view I'm sure that you will rent it on spot. I'm not looking to make a business or a profit with the apartment, I'm just trying to find a good and trust person to take good care of the place. The apartment has 2 bedrooms and 1 bathroom on 2nd floor. It is furnished but if you want you can use your furniture and deposit mine in the storage unit that is located near the building not far away. The rent is 710CAD/month with everything included (heat, hydro, water, electricity, cable and internet-full package from Rogers, 2 parking spots, laundry in-suite, washer and dryer). You will have full access to all the amenities of the building. Pets are allowed. I stayed in the apartment with my wife for 3 months. I'm a civil engineer and I work for a company that has an auction for a project in construction in London, United Kingdom, so my accommodation period in England will be about 4 years. Everything in the apartment is new so there will be no need for repairs. The only problem is that I need to send you the keys and papers because it is a private property and I'm sure we can make this happen.
Thank you and look forward hearing from you!
Second Email:
Hello,
Thank you for your reply. As I told you before the rent for 1 month will be 710CAD with no extra fees and you will have full access to all the amenities of the building. The price will not increase for the whole period that you will stay there. I would also like to know how many people will live in the apartment and also which rental contract do you prefer- 6 months rental contract with option of renewal or 1 year rental contract with option of renewal. The monthly payments can be wired to my Canadian Bank Account (TD Bank) or we can setup a payment method that is suitable for both of us. The apartment is in excellent condition, you only need to receive the keys and the contract so you could check it out, and see if you like it. Since at this moment I'm in London, United Kingdom and obviously we need a safe way to complete this deal.The solution is a worldwide third party company called CLICKANDBUY ( www.clickandbuy.com) ,they will provide assistance in handling the payment and delivery of the rental package. With this procedure you will be able to check the apartment before I receive the payment. Please be aware that is NOT necessary for you to register with ClickandBuy given that I'm a registered user for 4 years and I've made over 30 transactions with them so far. They are really professional and they have great services.
My phone number is +442032866521 (if you are calling from Canada you need to dial 011-44-20-32866521). You can call me or e-mail anytime you wish.
Let me know if you are interested so I can provide with all the steps of this transaction, everything that you need to know about this process before we get this started. I think is right for both of us.
Thank you and hope to hear from you soon!
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Guys Thanks Again for saving me and others from frauds like that. :-)
I tried to retrieve info from the header:
Received: from blu0-omc3-s7.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc3-s7.blu0.hotmail.com. [65.55.116.82])
by mx.google.com with ESMTP id h20si9276314vcw.58.2011.10.30.11.36.03;
Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:36:03 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jacob.muir@hotmail.com designates 65.55.116.82 as permitted sender) client-ip=65.55.116.82;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jacob.muir@hotmail.com designates 65.55.116.82 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jacob.muir@hotmail.com
Received: from BLU167-W19 ([65.55.116.73]) by blu0-omc3-s7.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675);
Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:36:02 -0700
Message-ID: <BLU167-W19D3CB2F9EC3A0D87AA64D87D10@phx.gbl>
Return-Path: jacob.muir@hotmail.com
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="_e2e03865-0d8a-4182-b052-8ab3ea6261c1_"
X-Originating-IP: [172.191.152.137]
From: jacob muir <jacob.muir@hotmail.com>
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Hope it will save someone else
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31 October 2011, 18:28
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Thanks for posting the headers to the fraud email. However, I need the headers from the email that came from the fake escrow company, support@clickandbuy-ca.com I need them in order to have the website shut down for abuse. If you could post the entire email with the headers that would be extremely helpful! Make sure to x out your personal information
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7 November 2011, 17:10
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Condo rental scam
Thanks Ben!
I have been corresponding with this individual who calls himself "Norman Gerrs".
Really indicates a problem if someone were willing to perform a transaction of this nature without meeting you, or at least having a trusted friend/family member handle things in your city for them.
People are over rated!
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9 November 2011, 20:28
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same dirtbag
Same dirtbag, different name, different city, from craigslist-toronto-apts (this would rent out for $2200) BEWARE
First email:
Hello,
My name is Tom Girron and I'm the owner of the apartment located in 37 Grosvenor St, Toronto, ON, Canada. I'm 45 years old, I'm a civil engineer and I work for a company that has an auction for a project in construction in London, United Kingdom, so my accommodation period in England will be about 4 years. As you can see I'm not asking for such a large amount on the rental. I just want to find a good and trust person to take good care of the apartment as long as I'm away. Is not in my best interest to make a business or a profit with the apartment. Everything it's just like in the pictures. Is the 1st time I'm renting. The apartment has 2 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms on 30st floor. It is furnished but if you want you can use your furniture and deposit mine in the storage unit that is located near the building not far away. Pets are allowed.The rent for 1 month is 950CAD$ (for the whole apartment) including all utilities (water, electricity, heat, internet, cable, 2 parking spots , dishwasher, garbage disposal, microwave, refrigerator, stove, laundry in-suite, washer and dryer). I stayed there with my wife just for 3 months until I got this job offer in London. Everything in this apt is functional because is almost new. If something breaks (the worst case that could happen) in the apartment, I will cover the repair costs, or I will deduct those from monthly payments. You can move in the apt in the same day when you receive the keys. The only problem is that I need to send you the keys and papers because it is a private property and I'm sure we can make this happen.
Thank you for your interest and hope to hear from you soon!
2nd email:
Hello,
Thank you for your reply. As I told you before the rent for 1 month will be 950CAD with no extra fees and you will have full access to all the amenities of the building. The price will not increase for the whole period that you will stay there. I would also like to know how many people will live in the apartment and also which rental contract do you prefer- 6 months rental contract with option of renewal or 1 year rental contract with option of renewal. The monthly payments can be wired to my Canadian Bank Account (TD Bank) or we can setup a payment method that is suitable for both of us. The apartment is in excellent condition, you only need to receive the keys and the contract so you could check it out, and see if you like it. Since at this moment I'm in London, United Kingdom and obviously we need a safe way to complete this deal.The solution is a worldwide third party company called CLICKANDBUY ( www.clickandbuy.com) ,they will provide assistance in handling the payment and delivery of the rental package. With this procedure you will be able to check the apartment before I receive the payment. Please be aware that is NOT necessary for you to register with ClickandBuy given that I'm a registered user for 4 years and I've made over 30 transactions with them so far. They are really professional and they have great services.
My phone number is +442081330914 (if you are calling from Canada you need to dial 011-44-20-81330914). You can call me or e-mail anytime you wish.
Let me know if you are interested so I can provide with all the steps of this transaction, everything that you need to know about this process before we get this started. I think is right for both of us.
Thank you and hope to hear from you soon!
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11 November 2011, 22:43
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Same guy:
Hello,
Thank you for your interest in my apartment located in 1083 Sunset Dr, Kelowna, BC, Canada. The apartment is in excellent condition and it's just like in the pictures, very clean and very well taken. Honestly from point of view I'm sure that you will rent it on spot. I'm not looking to make a business or a profit with the apartment, I'm just trying to find a good and trust person to take good care of the place. The apartment has 2 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms on 2nd floor. It is furnished but if you want you can use your furniture and deposit mine in the storage unit that is located near the building not far away. The rent is 690CAD/month with everything included (heat, hydro, water, electricity, cable and internet-full package from Rogers, 2 parking spots, laundry in-suite, washer and dryer). You will have full access to all the amenities of the building. Pets are allowed. I stayed in the apartment with my wife for 3 months. I'm a civil engineer and I work for a company that has an auction for a project in construction in London, United Kingdom, so my accommodation period in England will be about 4 years. Everything in the apartment is new so there will be no need for repairs. The only problem is that I need to send you the keys and papers because it is a private property and I'm sure we can make this happen.
Thank you and look forward hearing from you!
Hello,
Thank you for your reply. As I told you before the rent for 1 month will be 690CAD with no extra fees and you will have full access to all the amenities of the building. The price will not increase for the whole period that you will stay there. I would also like to know how many people will live in the apartment and also which rental contract do you prefer- 6 months rental contract with option of renewal or 1 year rental contract with option of renewal. The monthly payments can be wired to my Canadian Bank Account (TD Bank) or we can setup a payment method that is suitable for both of us. The apartment is in excellent condition, you only need to receive the keys and the contract so you could check it out, and see if you like it. Since at this moment I'm in London, United Kingdom and obviously we need a safe way to complete this deal.The solution is a worldwide third party company called CLICKANDBUY ( www.clickandbuy.com) ,they will provide assistance in handling the payment and delivery of the rental package. With this procedure you will be able to check the apartment before I receive the payment. Please be aware that is NOT necessary for you to register with ClickandBuy given that I'm a registered user for 4 years and I've made over 30 transactions with them so far. They are really professional and they have great services.
My phone number is +442081330914 (if you are calling from Canada you need to dial 011-44-20-81330914). You can call me or e-mail anytime you wish.
Let me know if you are interested so I can provide with all the steps of this transaction, everything that you need to know about this process before we get this started. I think is right for both of us.
Thank you and hope to hear from you soon!
690 for a new furnished 2 bdr/bath? Should have increased the price, would have been more realistic. Also, I don't believe Rogers even offers home internet in BC.
Stay safe
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11 November 2011, 22:57
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Scam - Nanaimo, BC
I saw an ad that I pretty much knew was a scam, I just wanted more info to see how far these 'scammers' take it.
1st Email
Hello,
Thank you for your interest in my apartment located in 38 Front St, Nanaimo, BC, Canada. The apartment is in excellent condition and it's just like in the pictures, very clean and very well taken. Honestly from point of view I'm sure that you will rent it on spot. I'm not looking to make a business or a profit with the apartment, I'm just trying to find a good and trust person to take good care of the place. The apartment has 2 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms. It is furnished but if you want you can use your furniture and deposit mine in the storage unit that is located near the building not far away. The rent is 700CAD/month with everything included (heat, hydro, water, electricity, cable and internet-full package from Rogers, 2 parking spots, laundry in-suite, washer and dryer). You will have full access to all the amenities of the building. Pets are allowed. I stayed in the apartment with my wife for 3 months. I'm a civil engineer and I work for a company that has an auction for a project in construction in London, United Kingdom, so my accommodation period in England will be about 4 years. Everything in the apartment is new so there will be no need for repairs. The only problem is that I need to send you the keys and papers because it is a private property and I'm sure we can make this happen.
Thank you and look forward hearing from you!
2nd Email
Hello,
Thank you for your reply. As I told you before the rent for 1 month will be 700CAD with no extra fees and you will have full access to all the amenities of the building. The price will not increase for the whole period that you will stay there. I would also like to know how many people will live in the apartment and also which rental contract do you prefer- 6 months rental contract with option of renewal or 1 year rental contract with option of renewal. The monthly payments can be wired to my Canadian Bank Account (TD Bank) or we can setup a payment method that is suitable for both of us. The apartment is in excellent condition, you only need to receive the keys and the contract so you could check it out, and see if you like it. Since at this moment I'm in London, United Kingdom and obviously we need a safe way to complete this deal.The solution is a worldwide third party company called CLICKANDBUY ( www.clickandbuy.com) ,they will provide assistance in handling the payment and delivery of the rental package. With this procedure you will be able to check the apartment before I receive the payment. Please be aware that is NOT necessary for you to register with ClickandBuy given that I'm a registered user for 4 years and I've made over 30 transactions with them so far. They are really professional and they have great services.
My phone number is +442081330914 (if you are calling from Canada you need to dial 011-44-20-81330914). You can call me or e-mail anytime you wish.
Let me know if you are interested so I can provide with all the steps of this transaction, everything that you need to know about this process before we get this started. I think is right for both of us.
Thank you and hope to hear from you soon!
P.S.: 1100 sqft
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13 November 2011, 18:17
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Same guy, again.
--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: steven orell <steven.orell@hotmail.com>
Date: 2011/11/13
Hello,
Thank you for your reply. As I told you before the rent for 1 month will be 935CAD with no extra fees and you will have full access to all the amenities of the building. The price will not increase for the whole period that you will stay there. I would also like to know how many people will live in the apartment and also which rental contract do you prefer- 6 months rental contract with option of renewal or 1 year rental contract with option of renewal. The monthly payments can be wired to my Canadian Bank Account (TD Bank) or we can setup a payment method that is suitable for both of us. The apartment is in excellent condition, you only need to receive the keys and the contract so you could check it out, and see if you like it. Since at this moment I'm in London, United Kingdom and obviously we need a safe way to complete this deal.The solution is a worldwide third party company called CLICKANDBUY ( www.clickandbuy.com) ,they will provide assistance in handling the payment and delivery of the rental package. With this procedure you will be able to check the apartment before I receive the payment. Please be aware that is NOT necessary for you to register with ClickandBuy given that I'm a registered user for 4 years and I've made over 30 transactions with them so far. They are really professional and they have great services.
My phone number is +442081330914 (if you are calling from Canada you need to dial 011-44-20-81330914). You can call me or e-mail anytime you wish.
Let me know if you are interested so I can provide with all the steps of this transaction, everything that you need to know about this process before we get this started. I think is right for both of us.
Thank you and hope to hear from you soon!
Second:
2011/11/12 steven orell <steven.orell@hotmail.com>
Hello,
Thank you for your interest in my apartment located in 90 Rue des Soeurs-Grises, Montreal, QC, Canada. The apartment is in excellent condition and it's just like in the pictures, very clean and very well taken. Honestly from point of view I'm sure that you will rent it on spot. I'm not looking to make a business or a profit with the apartment, I'm just trying to find a good and trust person to take good care of the place. The apartment has 2 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms. It is furnished but if you want you can use your furniture and deposit mine in the storage unit that is located near the building not far away. The rent is 935CAD/month with everything included (heat, hydro, water, electricity, cable and internet-full package from Rogers, 2 parking spots, laundry in-suite, washer and dryer). You will have full access to all the amenities of the building. Pets are allowed. I stayed in the apartment with my wife for 3 months. I'm a civil engineer and I work for a company that has an auction for a project in construction in London, United Kingdom, so my accommodation period in England will be about 4 years. Everything in the apartment is new so there will be no need for repairs. The only problem is that I need to send you the keys and papers because it is a private property and I'm sure we can make this happen.
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14 November 2011, 05:25
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Apartment - Click and Buy Scam North Vancouver
Hello,
Thank you for your reply. As I told you before the rent for 1 month will be 870CAD with no extra fees and you will have full access to all the amenities of the building. The price will not increase for the whole period that you will stay there. I would also like to know how many people will live in the apartment and also which rental contract do you prefer- 6 months rental contract with option of renewal or 1 year rental contract with option of renewal. The monthly payments can be wired to my Canadian Bank Account (TD Bank) or we can setup a payment method that is suitable for both of us. The apartment is in excellent condition, you only need to receive the keys and the contract so you could check it out, and see if you like it. Since at this moment I'm in London, United Kingdom and obviously we need a safe way to complete this deal.The solution is a worldwide third party company called CLICKANDBUY ( www.clickandbuy.com) ,they will provide assistance in handling the payment and delivery of the rental package. With this procedure you will be able to check the apartment before I receive the payment. Please be aware that is NOT necessary for you to register with ClickandBuy given that I'm a registered user for 4 years and I've made over 30 transactions with them so far. They are really professional and they have great services.
My phone number is +442081330914 (if you are calling from Canada you need to dial 011-44-20-81330914). You can call me or e-mail anytime you wish.
Let me know if you are interested so I can provide with all the steps of this transaction, everything that you need to know about this process before we get this started. I think is right for both of us.
Thank you and hope to hear from you soon!
Hello,
Thank you for your interest in my apartment located in 133 East Esplanade, North Vancouver, BC, Canada. The apartment is in excellent condition and it's just like in the pictures, very clean and very well taken. Honestly from point of view I'm sure that you will rent it on spot. I'm not looking to make a business or a profit with the apartment, I'm just trying to find a good and trust person to take good care of the place. The apartment has 1 bedroom and 1 bathroom. It is furnished but if you want you can use your furniture and deposit mine in the storage unit that is located near the building not far away. The rent is 870CAD/month with everything included (heat, hydro, water, electricity, cable and internet-full package from Rogers, 2 parking spots, laundry in-suite, washer and dryer). You will have full access to all the amenities of the building. Pets are allowed. I stayed in the apartment with my wife for 3 months. I'm a civil engineer and I work for a company that has an auction for a project in construction in London, United Kingdom, so my accommodation period in England will be about 4 years. Everything in the apartment is new so there will be no need for repairs. The only problem is that I need to send you the keys and papers because it is a private property and I'm sure we can make this happen.
Thank you and look forward hearing from you!
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17 November 2011, 01:10
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This guy is trying the same thing in Whistler, BC. I emailed him thinking it was too good to be true, and surprise. i got the exact same email as everyone else. Beware.
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18 November 2011, 00:57
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Craigslist Fraud
Thank you for your reply. As I told you before the rent for 1 month will be 710CAD with no extra fees and you will have full access to all the amenities of the building. The price will not increase for the whole period that you will stay there. I would also like to know how many people will live in the apartment and also which rental contract do you prefer- 6 months rental contract with option of renewal or 1 year rental contract with option of renewal. The monthly payments can be wired to my Canadian Bank Account (TD Bank) or we can setup a payment method that is suitable for both of us. The apartment is in excellent condition, you only need to receive the keys and the contract so you could check it out, and see if you like it. Since at this moment I'm in London, United Kingdom and obviously we need a safe way to complete this deal.The solution is a worldwide third party company called CLICKANDBUY ( www.clickandbuy.com <http://www.clickandbuy.com> ) ,they will provide assistance in handling the payment and delivery of the rental package. With this procedure you will be able to check the apartment before I receive the payment. Please be aware that is NOT necessary for you to register with ClickandBuy given that I'm a registered user for 4 years and I've made over 30 transactions with them so far. They are really professional and they have great services.
> My phone number is +442081330914 (if you are calling from Canada you need to dial 011-44-20-81330914). You can call me or e-mail anytime you wish.
> Let me know if you are interested so I can provide with all the steps of this transaction, everything that you need to know about this process before we get this started. I think is right for both of us.
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> Thank you and hope to hear from you soon!
This is word for word from my e-mail reply from this same add on Craigslist of a 2 bedroom apartment for rent in Scarborough Ontario.
Before I sent any money I contacted a realator and asked if this is something they have ever heard of. I forward the e-mail and I was told that this sounds like FRAUD and never to send cash money!!!!!
Please beware, this site has saved me $710.00.
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20 November 2011, 06:42
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another Fraud!!!! Victoria, BC
Thanks for the tips guys! I knew it was too good to be true!!!! I can't believe this person uses the exact same scam.... seriously! What a jerk! I'm glad I didn't fall for it! Reading your posts was a real eye opener!
#3email
Hi again,
You will only have to deposit to ClickandBuy the first month of rent from contract 940CAD$ so they can proceed with the shipping, and you can receive the rental package (keys and documents). I will pay for a 2 days delivery so you will receive the keys and the contract signed by me right away. I will explain you step by step how this process will work:
1 - To start the process all I need is your full shipping info(full name, address and a cell phone number).
2 - I will go at ClickandBuy to deposit the keys and the contract on your name as the intended receiver.
3 - ClickandBuy will check the package to see if everything is in order and also the legal papers that will come along with the keys and proof of ownership with their Real Estate Professional Department in London. They will also confirm with the building manager that I'm the legal owner of the apartment I'm renting to you.
4 - ClickandBuy will send you a delivery notification to let you know they have the keys and the papers in their custody in which you will also have all the payment instructions to complete the money transfer to the ClickandBuy Agent.
5 - At this point you will have to make a money deposit on the ClickandBuy Agent Name for the amount we agreed, the total amount you shall deposit for the first month of rent. The payment needs to be sent within 24 hours after you receive the transaction details or else they will charge me an additional fee.
6 - After you make the deposit you will have to send the payment details to ClickandBuy.
7 - ClickandBuy will verify the transfer and if everything is in order they will start the shipping procedures using UPS or TNT Next Day Shipping Service.
8 - After you receive the package, you will go and check the apartment and in 5 days (inspection time) you must contact ClickandBuy to inform them if you keep the apt or not and if everything is in order you will instruct ClickandBuy to send me the information about the money deposit and I will be able to receive the funds. If you don`t like the apartment they will be sending the money back to you and you will send back the keys and contract. ClickandBuy can't release the funds without your approval.
Let me know if you have the funds available (940CAD$) so we can move forward and e-mail me your full shipping information I requested. Any further questions regarding the transaction you can call me or e-mail me.
P.S.: call me today or send me your number and I will call you today
#2email
Hello,
Thank you for your reply. As I told you before the rent for 1 month will be 940CAD with no extra fees and you will have full access to all the amenities of the building. The price will not increase for the whole period that you will stay there. I would also like to know how many people will live in the apartment and also which rental contract do you prefer- 6 months rental contract with option of renewal or 1 year rental contract with option of renewal. The monthly payments can be wired to my Canadian Bank Account (TD Bank) or we can setup a payment method that is suitable for both of us. The apartment is in excellent condition, you only need to receive the keys and the contract so you could check it out, and see if you like it. Since at this moment I'm in London, United Kingdom and obviously we need a safe way to complete this deal.The solution is a worldwide third party company called CLICKANDBUY ( www.clickandbuy.com) ,they will provide assistance in handling the payment and delivery of the rental package. With this procedure you will be able to check the apartment before I receive the payment. Please be aware that is NOT necessary for you to register with ClickandBuy given that I'm a registered user for 4 years and I've made over 30 transactions with them so far. They are really professional and they have great services.
My phone number is +442081330914 (if you are calling from Canada you need to dial 011-44-20-81330914). You can call me or e-mail anytime you wish.
Let me know if you are interested so I can provide with all the steps of this transaction, everything that you need to know about this process before we get this started. I think is right for both of us.
Thank you and hope to hear from you soon!
#1 email
Hello,
Thank you for your interest in my apartment located in 737 Humboldt Street, Victoria, BC, Canada. The apartment is in excellent condition and it's just like in the pictures, very clean and very well taken. Honestly from point of view I'm sure that you will rent it on spot. I'm not looking to make a business or a profit with the apartment, I'm just trying to find a good and trust person to take good care of the place. The apartment has 2 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms. It is furnished but if you want you can use your furniture and deposit mine in the storage unit that is located near the building not far away. The rent is 940CAD/month with everything included (heat, hydro, water, electricity, cable and internet-full package from Rogers, 2 parking spots, laundry in-suite, washer and dryer). You will have full access to all the amenities of the building. Pets are allowed. I stayed in the apartment with my wife for 3 months. I'm a civil engineer and I work for a company that has an auction for a project in construction in London, United Kingdom, so my accommodation period in England will be about 4 years. Everything in the apartment is new so there will be no need for repairs. The only problem is that I need to send you the keys and papers because it is a private property and I'm sure we can make this happen.
Thank you and look forward hearing from you!
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20 November 2011, 23:08
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Another Fraud in Richmond Hill, ONT
My sister was apartment hunting and came across an ad for a 2bdrm condo for $790/month when other condos in the same building were going for at least double that. "Seller" calls himself Zoran Koracin and corresponded with us from zoran.kor@hotmail.com.
Thank you so much for your posts. She really wanted to go ahead with this deal until we found this! Below are the emails received from this scammer. It's word for word what he/she has written to others.
Hi again,
You will only have to deposit to ClickandBuy the first month of rent from contract 790CAD$ so they can proceed with the shipping, and you can receive the rental package (keys and documents). I will pay for a 2 days delivery so you will receive the keys and the contract signed by me right away. I will explain you step by step how this process will work:
1 - To start the process all I need is your full shipping info(full name, address and a cell phone number).
2 - I will go at ClickandBuy to deposit the keys and the contract on your name as the intended receiver.
3 - ClickandBuy will check the package to see if everything is in order and also the legal papers that will come along with the keys and proof of ownership with their Real Estate Professional Department in London. They will also confirm with the building manager that I'm the legal owner of the apartment I'm renting to you.
4 - ClickandBuy will send you a delivery notification to let you know they have the keys and the papers in their custody in which you will also have all the payment instructions to complete the money transfer to the ClickandBuy Agent.
5 - At this point you will have to make a money deposit on the ClickandBuy Agent Name for the amount we agreed, the total amount you shall deposit for the first month of rent. The payment needs to be sent within 24 hours after you receive the transaction details or else they will charge me an additional fee.
6 - After you make the deposit you will have to send the payment details to ClickandBuy.
7 - ClickandBuy will verify the transfer and if everything is in order they will start the shipping procedures using UPS or TNT Next Day Shipping Service.
8 - After you receive the package, you will go and check the apartment and in 5 days (inspection time) you must contact ClickandBuy to inform them if you keep the apt or not and if everything is in order you will instruct ClickandBuy to send me the information about the money deposit and I will be able to receive the funds. If you don`t like the apartment they will be sending the money back to you and you will send back the keys and contract. ClickandBuy can't release the funds without your approval.
Let me know if you have the funds available (790CAD$) so we can move forward and e-mail me your full shipping information I requested. Any further questions regarding the transaction you can call me or e-mail me.
Hello,
Thank you for your reply. As I told you before the rent for 1 month will be 790CAD with no extra fees and you will have full access to all the amenities of the building. The price will not increase for the whole period that you will stay there. I would also like to know how many people will live in the apartment and also which rental contract do you prefer- 6 months rental contract with option of renewal or 1 year rental contract with option of renewal. The monthly payments can be wired to my Canadian Bank Account (TD Bank) or we can setup a payment method that is suitable for both of us. The apartment is in excellent condition, you only need to receive the keys and the contract so you could check it out, and see if you like it. Since at this moment I'm in London, United Kingdom and obviously we need a safe way to complete this deal.The solution is a worldwide third party company called CLICKANDBUY ( www.clickandbuy.com) ,they will provide assistance in handling the payment and delivery of the rental package. With this procedure you will be able to check the apartment before I receive the payment. Please be aware that is NOT necessary for you to register with ClickandBuy given that I'm a registered user for 4 years and I've made over 30 transactions with them so far. They are really professional and they have great services.
My phone number is +442081330914 (if you are calling from Canada you need to dial 011-44-20-81330914). You can call me or e-mail anytime you wish.
Let me know if you are interested so I can provide with all the steps of this transaction, everything that you need to know about this process before we get this started. I think is right for both of us.
Hello,
Thank you for your interest in my apartment located in 18 Harding Blvd, Richmond Hill, ON, Canada. The apartment is in excellent condition and it's just like in the pictures, very clean and very well taken. Honestly from point of view I'm sure that you will rent it on spot. I'm not looking to make a business or a profit with the apartment, I'm just trying to find a good and trust person to take good care of the place. The apartment has 2 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms on top floor. It is furnished but if you want you can use your furniture and deposit mine in the storage unit that is located near the building not far away. The rent is 790CAD/month with everything included (heat, hydro, water, electricity, cable and internet-full package from Rogers, 2 parking spots, laundry in-suite, washer and dryer). You will have full access to all the amenities of the building. Pets are allowed. I stayed in the apartment with my wife for 3 months. I'm a civil engineer and I work for a company that has an auction for a project in construction in London, United Kingdom, so my accommodation period in England will be about 4 years. Everything in the apartment is new so there will be no need for repairs. The only problem is that I need to send you the keys and papers because it is a private property and I'm sure we can make this happen.
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22 November 2011, 21:12
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Still At it
Thanks for put this on the net. I got a response from the davidh4 for a imac with all the same wording as the rest of you guys off craiglist.
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28 November 2011, 17:14
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same scam different location
This is the email I got after replying to an ad posted on craigslist Vancouver:
Hello,
Thank you for your interest in my apartment located in 13789.107A Ave, BC, Canada. The apartment is in excellent condition and it's just like in the pictures, very clean and very well taken. Honestly from point of view I'm sure that you will rent it on spot. I'm not looking to make a business or a profit with the apartment, I'm just trying to find a good and trust person to take good care of the place. The apartment has 2 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms. It is furnished but if you want you can use your furniture and deposit mine in the storage unit that is located near the building not far away. The rent is 700CAD/month with everything included (heat, hydro, water, electricity, cable and internet-full package from Rogers, 2 parking spots, laundry in-suite, washer and dryer). You will have full access to all the amenities of the building. Pets are allowed. I stayed in the apartment with my wife for 3 months. I'm a civil engineer and I work for a company that has an auction for a project in construction in London, United Kingdom, so my accommodation period in England will be about 4 years. Everything in the apartment is new so there will be no need for repairs. The only problem is that I need to send you the keys and papers because it is a private property and I'm sure we can make this happen.
Thank you and look forward hearing from you!
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29 November 2011, 05:20
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These two are probably the same guy
These two are likely the same person, and also the same as the guy some of you dealt with. If these people spent a fraction of their time doing something constructive, rather than scamming people, they could easily make an honest living .
There should be a specific area on craigslist for posting scams. That would keep people aware and may deter the thieves.
On 2011-11-13, at 4:45 PM, George Bercalos wrote:
Hello,
Thank you for your reply. As I told you before the rent for 1 month will be 940CAD with no extra fees and you will have full access to all the amenities of the building. The price will not increase for the whole period that you will stay there. I would also like to know how many people will live in the apartment and also which rental contract do you prefer- 6 months rental contract with option of renewal or 1 year rental contract with option of renewal. The monthly payments can be wired to my Canadian Bank Account (TD Bank) or we can setup a payment method that is suitable for both of us. The apartment is in excellent condition, you only need to receive the keys and the contract so you could check it out, and see if you like it. Since at this moment I'm in London, United Kingdom and obviously we need a safe way to complete this deal.The solution is a worldwide third party company called CLICKANDBUY ( www.clickandbuy.com) ,they will provide assistance in handling the payment and delivery of the rental package. With this procedure you will be able to check the apartment before I receive the payment. Please be aware that is NOT necessary for you to register with ClickandBuy given that I'm a registered user for 4 years and I've made over 30 transactions with them so far. They are really professional and they have great services.
My phone number is +442081330914 (if you are calling from Canada you need to dial 011-44-20-81330914). You can call me or e-mail anytime you wish.
Let me know if you are interested so I can provide with all the steps of this transaction, everything that you need to know about this process before we get this started. I think is right for both of us.
Thank you and hope to hear from you soon!
On 2011-11-21, at 3:19 PM, Eusebio M. Fowler wrote:
There is parking acces available(one place) I forgot to mentioned it!
We can sign the agreement starting next weekend but you see these is due to previous predicament that I have gone through in the past trying to rent the property to some students,I have got to realize so many people are not really in need of an apartment all they do is secure a place in advance, My last experience in trying to rent the property to a particular lady had got me to predicate on these,she made me believe she was willing and ready to get the apartment she even went to the extend of showing me her statement of account,which made me took her for the viewing but after taking her for the viewing,she saw the apartment and got to love it and never wanted to loose it,so she kept pleading i retain it for her because she is not financially composed at the moment,which i did but end up disastrously.
So basically for me to be sure of you been willing and ready to get the apartment I will employ you walk into any Western Union outlet and send the total bill cash 1600 (two months rent ) to your partener`s name(NOT to ME),or your partener should send it to you with location of United Kingdom,All I need is for you to get back to me with the receipt issued to you after making the transaction so I can confirm it! When we will meet in person to sign the papers we will go together to Western Union and you or your partner will change the cash to my name so i can come back and take the money I just need to see that you do have the money available and you do have serious intentions in renting the flat! If the Western Union agent will ask you about the receiver you should tell him that is your cousin because the transfer fees will be cheaper! Anyway I will pay for it either you take the flat or not! I will book the flight for Saturday as soon as I have your positive answer because I can come only in weekends! Sorry i did not find the rental agreement , i have it in Canada,i attached my identity details!
I do apologise for that but as I told you last time when I arrived to Canada to show the flat to a person everything was a stupid joke and I hope you understand me because I don`t want to waste my time and money on plane tickets..
Regards,
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5 December 2011, 03:20
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Apartment scam? on Craig's list.
I replied to an add for an apartment in Kingston, Ontario that was just posted on Craig's list. I wasn't suspicious until I received a second e-mail involving this "click and buy". That's when I went on line and found this site. After reading your story I saw that my e-mails from this guy, a Jim Volners, are almost word for word!!!! He does use a legit address for an apartment building. I did tell him that I was going to the building to check things out so I will be interested as to what his next reply is. If this is the same guy, and it sure sounds like it, then how do we report him? Not everyone may take the time to check these things out and end up being defrauded. I have also pasted his replay to my e-mails and as you can see it must be from the same guy. Thanks for saving me from wasting anymore time on this jerk.
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Hello,
Thank you for your interest in my apartment located in 165 Ontario St, Kingston, ON, Canada. The apartment is in excellent condition and it's just like in the pictures, very clean and very well taken. Honestly from point of view I'm sure that you will rent it on spot. I'm not looking to make a business or a profit with the apartment, I'm just trying to find a good and trust person to take good care of the place. The apartment has 3 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms. It is furnished but if you want you can use your furniture and deposit mine in the storage unit that is located near the building not far away. The rent is 1000CAD/month with everything included (heat, hydro, water, electricity, cable and internet-full package from Rogers, 2 parking spots, laundry in-suite, washer and dryer). You will have full access to all the amenities of the building. Pets are allowed. I stayed in the apartment with my wife for 3 months. I'm a civil engineer and I work for a company that has an auction for a project in construction in London, United Kingdom, so my accommodation period in England will be about 4 years. Everything in the apartment is new so there will be no need for repairs. The only problem is that I need to send you the keys and papers because it is a private property and I'm sure we can make this happen.
Thank you and look forward hearing from you!
Hello,
Thank you for your reply. As I told you before the rent for 1 month will be 1000CAD with no extra fees and you will have full access to all the amenities of the building. The price will not increase for the whole period that you will stay there. I would also like to know how many people will live in the apartment and also which rental contract do you prefer- 6 months rental contract with option of renewal or 1 year rental contract with option of renewal. The monthly payments can be wired to my Canadian Bank Account (TD Bank) or we can setup a payment method that is suitable for both of us. The apartment is in excellent condition, you only need to receive the keys and the contract so you could check it out, and see if you like it. Since at this moment I'm in London, United Kingdom and obviously we need a safe way to complete this deal.The solution is a worldwide third party company called CLICKANDBUY ( www.clickandbuy.com) ,they will provide assistance in handling the payment and delivery of the rental package. With this procedure you will be able to check the apartment before I receive the payment. Please be aware that is NOT necessary for you to register with ClickandBuy given that I'm a registered user for 4 years and I've made over 30 transactions with them so far. They are really professional and they have great services.
My phone number is +442071935892 (if you are calling from Canada you need to dial 011-44-20-71935892). You can call me or e-mail anytime you wish.
Let me know if you are interested so I can provide with all the steps of this transaction, everything that you need to know about this process before we get this started. I think is right for both of us.
Thank you and hope to hear from you soon!
QUOTE=Unregistered;141631]Thank you all of you guys!!! You saved my time and money.
I was looking for a house for rent in Kamloops when i found this add on craigslist ( http://kamloops.en.craigslist.ca/apa/2653506051.html). After contacting the guy I got similar emails.
First Email:
Hello,
Thank you for your interest in my apartment located in 1390 Hillside Dr, Kamloops, BC, Canada. The apartment is in excellent condition and it's just like in the pictures, very clean and very well taken. Honestly from point of view I'm sure that you will rent it on spot. I'm not looking to make a business or a profit with the apartment, I'm just trying to find a good and trust person to take good care of the place. The apartment has 2 bedrooms and 1 bathroom on 2nd floor. It is furnished but if you want you can use your furniture and deposit mine in the storage unit that is located near the building not far away. The rent is 710CAD/month with everything included (heat, hydro, water, electricity, cable and internet-full package from Rogers, 2 parking spots, laundry in-suite, washer and dryer). You will have full access to all the amenities of the building. Pets are allowed. I stayed in the apartment with my wife for 3 months. I'm a civil engineer and I work for a company that has an auction for a project in construction in London, United Kingdom, so my accommodation period in England will be about 4 years. Everything in the apartment is new so there will be no need for repairs. The only problem is that I need to send you the keys and papers because it is a private property and I'm sure we can make this happen.
Thank you and look forward hearing from you!
Second Email:
Hello,
Thank you for your reply. As I told you before the rent for 1 month will be 710CAD with no extra fees and you will have full access to all the amenities of the building. The price will not increase for the whole period that you will stay there. I would also like to know how many people will live in the apartment and also which rental contract do you prefer- 6 months rental contract with option of renewal or 1 year rental contract with option of renewal. The monthly payments can be wired to my Canadian Bank Account (TD Bank) or we can setup a payment method that is suitable for both of us. The apartment is in excellent condition, you only need to receive the keys and the contract so you could check it out, and see if you like it. Since at this moment I'm in London, United Kingdom and obviously we need a safe way to complete this deal.The solution is a worldwide third party company called CLICKANDBUY ( www.clickandbuy.com) ,they will provide assistance in handling the payment and delivery of the rental package. With this procedure you will be able to check the apartment before I receive the payment. Please be aware that is NOT necessary for you to register with ClickandBuy given that I'm a registered user for 4 years and I've made over 30 transactions with them so far. They are really professional and they have great services.
My phone number is +442032866521 (if you are calling from Canada you need to dial 011-44-20-32866521). You can call me or e-mail anytime you wish.
Let me know if you are interested so I can provide with all the steps of this transaction, everything that you need to know about this process before we get this started. I think is right for both of us.
Thank you and hope to hear from you soon!
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Guys Thanks Again for saving me and others from frauds like that. :-)
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5 December 2011, 15:32
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Barrie Waterfront Apartment for Rent - Scam on OLX
Hi Everyone,
I would just like to let everyone know, I was looking for an apartment to rent in Barrie On, Canada and I had replied to an add on OLX that had to be too good to be true. It was a gorgeous waterfront apartment for $750 CA, everything included. I noticed a similar post regarding an apartment in both Kingston ON, and Kamloops BC. The e-mails that are shown, I received the exact same with the exception of price and place. However, I did go as far as saying I was ready to look at the apartment and I received the following e-mail;
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Hi again,
You will only have to deposit to ClickandBuy the first month of rent from contract 770CAD$ so they can proceed with the shipping, and you can receive the rental package (keys and documents). I will pay for a 2 days delivery so you will receive the keys and the contract signed by me right away. I will explain you step by step how this process will work:
1 - To start the process all I need is your full shipping info(full name, address and a cell phone number).
2 - I will go at ClickandBuy to deposit the keys and the contract on your name as the intended receiver.
3 - ClickandBuy will check the package to see if everything is in order and also the legal papers that will come along with the keys and proof of ownership with their Real Estate Professional Department in London. They will also confirm with the building manager that I'm the legal owner of the apartment I'm renting to you.
4 - ClickandBuy will send you a delivery notification to let you know they have the keys and the papers in their custody in which you will also have all the payment instructions to complete the money transfer to the ClickandBuy Agent.
5 - At this point you will have to make a money deposit on the ClickandBuy Agent Name for the amount we agreed, the total amount you shall deposit for the first month of rent. The payment needs to be sent within 24 hours after you receive the transaction details or else they will charge me an additional fee.
6 - After you make the deposit you will have to send the payment details to ClickandBuy.
7 - ClickandBuy will verify the transfer and if everything is in order they will start the shipping procedures using UPS or TNT Next Day Shipping Service.
8 - After you receive the package, you will go and check the apartment and in 5 days (inspection time) you must contact ClickandBuy to inform them if you keep the apt or not and if everything is in order you will instruct ClickandBuy to send me the information about the money deposit and I will be able to receive the funds. If you don`t like the apartment they will be sending the money back to you and you will send back the keys and contract. ClickandBuy can't release the funds without your approval.
Let me know if you have the funds available (770CAD$) so we can move forward and e-mail me your full shipping information I requested. Any further questions regarding the transaction you can call me or e-mail me.
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This triggered me to research ClickandBuy and within seconds of typing it into Google, the second search that came up was "ClickandBuy Scam". I looked into it further which led me to this site, where I found the exact e-mails that people were posting that I was receiving. Since receiving the above e-mail, I replied and questioned the guy on the secureness of the site and if there was an alternative method of viewing the apartment and that this has potential to be a scam. I have not heard a response since which leads me to believe that this is a scam. Just an FYI, I came across another listing in the Barrie area with the Nautica apartments with price at $810. I have also found results that this is a scam as well.
I hope I have helped with my post? and saved someone from going through with this despicable crime.
Regards 
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