China Hainan National Grains & Oils Imp. &Exp. Co. Ltd.

[NAFSIS]

Do you know anything about this company?

Good or bad, positive or negative, please let me know by posting here!

We just got contacted by them. They are looking to buy our product. Their approach was similar to Shirgem's and they are from the same city in China, possibly even the same street.
(You can read the thread on Shirgem if you haven't already)
I am very suspicious of them because of the similarities (minor for the moment).

Stay well.

[poirot]

Their web site chinahngo.com doesn't load but it's still in Google Cache

Copyright all received by China Hainan National Granins & Oil Imp.&Exp.Co.,Ltd Tel:86 898 66707216 66700296 66703256 66702596 Fax:86 898 66706971
Http://www.chinahngo.com E-mail: cngo@chinahngo.com (P.C)：570125
ADD: 21F, Haijingwan building, No.8 Longkunbeijingwan Road, Haikou, Hainan, China

66702596 is also used here with the same address but a different name which is a major red flag:
http://buyer.qualitydress.com/inquir...819329025.html

Dear sir we are interested in expending chinese milk powder market,and look forward to cooperating with milk powder producers or suppliers. Please feel free to contact me at cngog1@yahoo.cn so that we can discuss the details Thank you, Wendy National Grains & oil Imp.& Exp.Co.,Ltd hainan China Add:21F,Haijingwan building,No8 longkunbeijingwan Road,Haikou,Hainan,China Tel: 86 898 66702596 Mob: 86 13976223153 Fax:86 898 66706971 ; Email cngog1@yahoo.cn or huozi-7g@163.com SKP Name: chreeychen Country/Region: China

Their domain was registered only four months ago with incomplete details and for a single year. Double red flags

Domain Name : chinahngo.com
PunnyCode : chinahngo.com
Creation Date : 2010-07-07 13:31:18
Updated Date : 2010-07-07 13:31:18
Expiration Date : 2011-07-07 13:31:14
Registrant:
Organization : wei feng
Name : weifeng
Address : Haikou City
City : haikou
Province/State : Hainan
Country : cn
Postal Code : 570206
Administrative Contact:
Name : weifeng
Organization : weifeng
Address : Haikou City
City : haikou
Province/State : Hainan
Country : cn
Postal Code : 570206
Phone Number : 86-138-76483124
Fax : 86-898-66707216
Email : hybfcul@163.com

[mariatrindade]

Hi,

I've been conatcted by China Hainan nationla Grains and Oil Imp. and Exp. for they intend to start buying Portuguese red wine.

I see someone has already posted a question about this company, but we're now on september 2011, so can anyone tell me if the company is reliable or not.

Has anyone done business with this company recently?

[ENOICA]

I have to send the Italian wines samples at this Company,
can someone tell me if I do well or not?
This company is serious or not?
In China we are selling well, but we also got the scams, so I have no desire to rob me of money. If anyone can help me! Thank you in advance ...
Please if you know something urgently replay to me ...
****Personal details removed****

''
Xie Liuzhu
China Hainan National Grains & Oil Imp. & Exp. Co., Ltd.
21stF, Haijingwan building, No.8 Longkunbeijingwan Road,
Haikou, Hainan, China. (P.C:570125)
Tel: +86 898 66707216 Cel: +86 18789109332
E-mail: xie-liuzhu@hotmail.com Skype: xie_liuzhu
''

Be careful - Make sure you get payment before you send anything.

We are also wondering if this China National Grains and Oil Imp & Exp Ltd is genuine?

We have recently received inquiry from this company seeking 12,000 bottles of wine importation. The contact person is Kerry Ye. Add: 21F, Haijingwan Building, No.8 Longkunbeijingwan Road, Haikou, Hainan, China. Email: jshnyzyh5.3@hotmail.com.

Can anyone shed some light? Many thanks!

[mysteryquest]

Originally Posted by unregistered

We are also wondering if this China National Grains and Oil Imp & Exp Ltd is genuine?

We have recently received inquiry from this company seeking 12,000 bottles of wine importation. The contact person is Kerry Ye. Add: 21F, Haijingwan Building, No.8 Longkunbeijingwan Road, Haikou, Hainan, China. Email: jshnyzyh5.3@hotmail.com.

Can anyone shed some light? Many thanks!

It sounds like a Guilin Scam. Please read: Chinese Fake Contract Import/Export "Guilin" Scam

It is important that you provide the domain or url of their website. If they don't have a website, the are almost surely scammers. From the other posts in the thread, they appear to be scammers.

[rainbow76]

China National Grains and Oil Imp & Exp Ltd is scam!

"Hainan “ National grain and oil” is a large-scale industry comprehensive import-export company which authorized by the State Administration for Industrial and Commerce, the Customs, the Economic and Trade Committee" is lies! There is no such company registered in State Administration and Customs.

And this guy own other 286 websites:

Reverse Whois:"wei feng" owns about286 other domains
Email Search: is associated with about 18 domains

Registrar History:1 registrar NS History:3 changes on 3 unique name servers over 1 year. IP History:8 changes on 7 unique IP addresses over 1 years. Whois History:17 records have been archived since 2010-07-08 . Reverse IP:17 other sites hosted on this server.

Domain Name : chinahngo.com
PunnyCode : chinahngo.com
Creation Date : 2010-07-07 13:31:18
Updated Date : 2011-07-15 14:30:15
Expiration Date : 2012-07-07 13:31:14

Registrant:
Organization : wei feng
Name : weifeng
Address : Haikou City
City : haikou
Province/State : Hainan
Country : cn
Postal Code : 570206

[Rajtan]

China Hainan National Grain and Oil. We have been having convoluted email discussion about the supply of 2 containers of Australian wine worth $240,000Now the company wants me to come to China with the samples to discuss the deal. Following on from what I have read about this company, particularly in this blogg, I sent the following email:
"Hi Ashley,
I have been very busy selling wine. I very am interested in coming to China to have the contract finalised but in order to do that, I would have to ask you to send me a Business Class Return ticket and book a suitable 5-star hotel in the city close to your office. I would also need an assistant (female) who could speak Chinese and stay with me while I am in your town to help me with all my personal needs and transport etc. I think I would stay for at least a week. These costs can be deducted from the first order that your company makes. I am having the contract translated to Chinese as well.
Air China have regular flights from Sydney."

The reply was predictable:
"Thank you for your kindly reply.
But the leaders in our company thnk that your requirment is too difficult for us to observe.
SORRY
Ashley"

Too good to be true!

[Rajtan]

Here is the final email:
Thanks for your all support and trust for the high quality sample you sent.We are sorry for the delay to reply you becuase of the busy days.
I am Ms Annie, Purchase Manager of Hainan , National Grains and Oil Imp. & Exp.Co., Ltd. As my colleague Mr Tate‘s introduction, your company is a very honest and excellent firm.
On behalf of our company, I would like to carry on the further details of the contract with you directly.
These days, we are looking for nice suppliers to work together to open the bigger market for high quality red wine. We often place a larger order (purchase 5 or 8 types wines) as a first order and be an agent in whole China and also need market supports to pave the best way for the red wine at first after we both sign the contract.

1. We both sign the contract at first and the contract show we are you agent in China.
2. And then you send out the market supports for us. When we receive your market supports we will pay you by T/T step by step
Our payment terms as follow:
(1) The buyer shall pay 20% of the purchase amount by T/T to the seller in 30 working days after receiving your market supports.
（2）The buyer shall pay 30% of the purchase amount by T/T to the seller when containers depart from seller's port;

（3）The buyer shall pay 20% of the purchase amount by T/T to the seller when containers arrive the destination port;

（4）The buyer shall pay 30% of the purchase amount by T/T to the seller in 30 working days after picking up the goods when total containers have no suspect of quality problem.
Please let me know If you have any further question .If you can agree our terms, we can come into the further of market support next e-mail.
We Sincerely hope to promote, through mutual efforts, understanding, both trade and friendship in future business
Looking forward to hearing from you
Best regard
Annie
Hainan, National Grains and Oil Imp. & Exp.Co., Ltd.
21F, Haijingwan building, No 8 Longkunbeijingwan Road, Hainan, China
P.C: 570125
Tel: 86 898 66702596 Fax:86 898 66706971
E-mail：cngoh@yahoo.cn Or cngoh@chinango.com
SKYPE: anniemszhou
Country/Region: Hainan ,China
Website: http://www.chinahngo.com

Market supports??

[rainbow76]

Hi Rajtan, this is scam, this company does not registered and cannot import anything!

They are scammers 100%. I was in their office a couple of days ago. Details to be posted.

China Hainan National Grains & Oils Imp. & Exp. Co. Ltd. sounds like a state owned I/E Corps to me. But seems it isn't.

"Denis Craig's" story is interesting:

http://ask.alibaba.com/Q/800290458-C...-ExpCoLtd.html

So, details.
We were in South China with my partner on business, had some free time, decided to visit Haikou (Hainan) to discuss with this National Grain ... Co terms and conditions. We've sent two sample bottles of wine to them before, they were so happy that we decided to visit them. We were met in the airport by boss and the manager we were in touch. Boss, Mr. Wei Feng, was driving new BMW without state number pannels himself. Seemed not to speak English, kept silence all the way, girl-manager entertained us. As it was late evening, they decided to pick up us from hotel at 10.30 AM. But in the morning the girl called and said that her boss had certain emergency, so we had to catch a taxi. OK, we went to their office. Office exists, just a floor in the hotel, several rooms, reception, no tea, paper cups for coffee. All the managers (appr. 8-12 boys and girls) speak English, but the boss does not. Strange? In the meeting room there is a big display with wine, vodka, brandy, oil, coffee samples from all over the world. We took some samples with us, suggested to taste, but Ms and Mr we negotiating to refused and proposed to start with marketing money (10% of the order value) and free samples (100 cases per each container). Then their terms of payment - 20% after getting all marketing funds and samples, 30% after shipping, 30% after receiving goods, 20% within 45 days after receiving. We said it is unacceptable, made counter propositions, they said - sorry, we can't change conditions without our boss, see you tomorrow. OK, tomorrow Mr. Feng picked up us, said "good morning" almost clearly. In the office he asked for 8 containers of total value of EUR 700 000. We had to pay 10% as marketing fund, 800 cases as free samples, they will pay us 20% in advance, 60% after shipping, 20% within 45 days after receiving goods. All by T/T. I asked for LC, they made wide eyes, no LC, only TT. So we even did not say good bye. After that we found out that many companies made deals with this scammer company and lost lots of money, say French Chateau Moulins-Listrac shipped wines in 2009, no money to today.
My friend living in China said that a lot of scammers are based in Haikou. Be careful, guys!