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Old 11 March 2010, 09:48
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Anyone heard of "Jiazhuang Kermingjing Office Equipment Co Ltd" or had any dealings with them? They are supposedly a Trust Pass and Gold member of Alibaba
Can't find this company, please provide a link.

nikespirit.com - this site doesn't seem to exist?
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Old 12 March 2010, 10:13
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ECOWAS name is very commonly used in scams. They will most likely ask you to pay an endless series of fees with Western Union.
Thank you for your reply!
Yeah, I'm waiting for them to do so. All the correspondence is unofficial coming from gmail.com and yahoo.com on behalf of ECOWAS.
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Old 16 March 2010, 21:07
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how to understand whether the seller is real

I plan to buy some extra cheap mp3 players from www.topdaichina.com but have certain doubts in reality of this seller:
1. the company tells it exists from 2000, but the site was created on 8 Dec. 2009 and it is hosted in the U.S.
2. the certificates on their webpage are hardly seen
3. They contacted me after my inquiry on alibaba.com but say they don't have the account there and found me somewhere else.
4. they contact me from gmail account saying it is the policy of the company.

But the rest is rather plausible... Tomorrow they will send me the invoice for partialy prepayment through the bank transfer. Can you help me to check this company?
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Old 17 March 2010, 01:59
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Lightbulb Ever Tried applying for Gold Supplier/trust pass

I own a business in Australia and am looking for suppliers overseas. So i went to the Aliababa webiste and was promoted to apply for Gold Supplier Status.

It costs $2,999 US to sign up to get immeditate gold pass and get immediate Trust pass? How can they give it to you immediately if they need to so call check your business out. Alibaba is all in it for the money.

If anything people need to use Escrow for all from China. I have spoken to hundreds of so called suppliers on Alibaba and got fed up one day with all of them wanting Western Union and other unsecured payment options, i started to tell them i had a friend the worked in the Australian Embassy in China that would come down to there factory inspect the goods and buy them on the spot.

I think i had close to 50 suppliers not respond to me after i sent that message.

So please if anything demand to only use Escrow as a payment source if they do not accept do not trade.
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Old 17 March 2010, 16:47
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I plan to buy some extra cheap mp3 players from www.topdaichina.com but have certain doubts in reality of this seller:
1. the company tells it exists from 2000, but the site was created on 8 Dec. 2009 and it is hosted in the U.S.
2. the certificates on their webpage are hardly seen
3. They contacted me after my inquiry on alibaba.com but say they don't have the account there and found me somewhere else.
4. they contact me from gmail account saying it is the policy of the company.

But the rest is rather plausible... Tomorrow they will send me the invoice for partialy prepayment through the bank transfer. Can you help me to check this company?
They send me invoice right now to pay

Beneficiary Name: HU PING
Beneficiary Bank:HSBC HongKong
A/C number: 015 398464 833
SWIFT CODE: HSBCHKHHHKH
BANK CODE: 004
ADD of bank: 1 Queen's Road Central,Hong Kong
and after i refused to pay to the private account, I received such a letter

Dear Friend

I thank you for your long time effort .
Please understand that you are not the first customer of mine , our company do not only do business with you by this account ,I do not want prepare application form to use company account for your order us$285.00 , if you can not accept it then I do not disturb you anymore ,thanks.
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Old 17 March 2010, 16:59
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If you've read around the forum a little, you will have seen that we keep repeating how unsafe are payments by Western Union, Moneygram and to individual's bank accounts. All 3 are like giving a bag full of money to a stranger on the street....Do you really want to do this?
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Old 17 March 2010, 21:47
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Azuaz,

If you've read around the forum a little, you will have seen that we keep repeating how unsafe are payments by Western Union, Moneygram and to individual's bank accounts. All 3 are like giving a bag full of money to a stranger on the street....Do you really want to do this?
Thanks for your sympathy! I never thought to pay to an private acoount and that's why I was not catched this time also

But who can tell me, how can be money returned if you paid to an company account by T/T, but never received goods?
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Old 18 March 2010, 00:42
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But who can tell me, how can be money returned if you paid to an company account by T/T, but never received goods?
T/T - Telegraphic Transer aka Wire/Bank Transfer.

You need to talk to your bank, not us.
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Old 21 March 2010, 21:52
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This is a scam mail from WestAfrica The name is a Ghanian name and please do not send them your bank details for any reason. i live in Nigeria and this kind of mails are very common here
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I got contacted at Alibaba, sent a few emails and this is what I got.

Is this a scam? I'm pretty sure that it is

Thank you so much for your email. i have receiver your invoice with thanks and i have inform the ecowas for the Approval of this contract onbehaif of your company as soon as you receiver any mail form ecowas let me know,also try and call the Ecowas Chairman for the Awarad of your Contract,so pls you have to send your bank account information to the Ecowas and your mobile phone number for confimation try and contact the Ecowas now send mail to them ask them where you will receiver the payment into your bank account

Ecowas Chairman NAME;Mr Dr DAVID OFORI
ECOWAS CONTRACT ;CHAIRMAN
TELPHONE;+233-265-710-654

I have received your invoices documents you sent to me by email
attachment and I have arranged all for submission to the E.C..O.W.A..S
Contract Awarding Committee for confirmation and approval by the tender
board of the E..C..O.W.A.S Contract Awarding Committee.

I will go the E..C..O.W.A.S Contract Awarding Committee IF YOU RECEIVER
ANY MAIL FROM THE E..C..O.W.A.S Contract Awarding Committee for my
advise..
Regards
Mr Eric John
+233-246-164-446
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Old 23 March 2010, 22:28
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ChengZhen Import&Export Trade Co., Ltd

Has any one ordered from ChengZhen Import&Export Trade Co., Ltd They are located in China
Do they send out the items or are they a scam?
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Old 1 April 2010, 13:18
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Is this a real seller???

Good day every body, I am new here but I have read a lot of hir, I hope that someone can help me a little bit.

I was looking for sellers and I found this company:
ShenZhen HZL Technology Co., Ltd.

Registered Address:No.808,Building B,HuaFu 186,Futian District,shenzhen city,China
Company Website: www.sz-hzl.com (I found that this Site was founded 2009)
Telephone:+86-138-50235943
Ownership&Capital
Year Established:2006-03-22
Legal Represent ative/Business Ms.lan huang

Mr Queen is the sales manager of this company, they send me the WU invoice for the Nikon D700 Body(414$) the delivery cost is (30$) to ukrain. I think that is too cheap. They accept T/T or West Union or Money Gram and Bank Transfer.

Has anyone made experience with this company, or bought from them is this company serious and genuine???

If anybody know any serious companys with Nikon Digital Camaras, I would be very grateful. ( Only for the ukrain market, I am not a competitor )

Thanks everybody in advance.
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Old 1 April 2010, 16:40
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You can read more at http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/...pg=fw_buychina , but in a nutshell, unless they allow you to make a bank transfer to a COMPANY-owned Chinese bank account, I would stay away. In other words, the owner of the account should be the company, not a person's name.

Personal bank accounts are very easily abused by scammers, and those other payment methods don't really offer any consumer protection.
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Old 2 April 2010, 09:26
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I have been scammed by the above company,through trademananger on Alibaba I spoke to somebody called Gerald TRUMAN, he states that he is the owner of Tristar Electronics PTE LTD www.etristar.com.sg of 110 Middle Road, #04-01 Chiat Hong Building Singapore 188968. He could reliably supply me with Apple Iphones, 100% original from USA, he was very convincing in his sales talk. Eventually and nievely I agreed to send him 200GBP as an initial payment for a sample order of one Iphone and if delivered successfully then I would send him the further 50GBP. He told me that his brother Paul TRUMAN owns an Iphone distribution company in the UK called Iphones Limited of 122 Grange Avenue, Oldham. Again Nievely Gerald TRUMAN instructed me to send the initial 200GBP via Western Union to his brother Paul TRUMAN and he in turn would post the Iphone to me from the UK. The next day when I contacted Gerald TRUMAN to enquire as to the progress of my order he now stated to me that I could not order just 1 Iphone, the minimum order was 3 Iphones and I needed to send a further 550GBP to Paul TRUMAN, I stated that I would not send anymore money and to refund my initial 200GBP. Gerald TRUMAN now stated that to ensure that my transaction was secure I should send the 550GBP via Western Union to my wife's name and supply him with the MTCN so that he could verify that the funds were secure. I did not want to do this through fear of being scammed further, but again I nievely thought that if funds were in my wife's name then it would be secure, I decided to send just 50GBP in my wife's name even if to just try and reclaim my initial 200GBP. I gave Gerald TRUMAN the MTCN and he told me to check the transfer on WU USA website to include the senders and the receivers name, unfortunately TRUMAN tricked me into giving him my wife's name so that he could check himself that the funds were secure.
I had an email a few hours later from Western Union to say that the 50GBP that I sent to my wife had been collected, my wife did NOT collect that money, Gerald TRUMAN has faked my wife's identity to steal the extra 50GBP and then he accuses me of trying to cheat him for not depositing 550GBP. Needless to say I have not received any money at all as a refund from Gerald TRUMAN.
I have tried to telephone Tristar Electronics on (65) 6333-5750 but each time I get through and start to explain my problem the person puts the phone down and hangs up.
Sorry for the long post
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Old 2 April 2010, 10:16
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Hello nige0568,

how do you know that the person you were dealing with had any connection with the real company, Tristar Electronics PTE LTD? The domain etristar.com.sg is 10 years old and they certainly do not look like scammers.

It seems more likely to me that you were duped by somebody who used their name to gain credibility.

How did you communicate with this person? What email address of phone number did he give you?
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I checked Alibaba and found a listing for "Tristar Electronics Ltd" in Singapore, but it doesn't say "Tristar Electronics PTE Ltd", the proper name and it's a free member - it's not been verified:

http://www.alibaba.com/member/sg109787755.html

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This member's company information has not been authenticated or verified by Alibaba.com or any other third party
Only Gold Suppliers on Alibaba.com have passed an Authentication and Verification process conducted by third party credit-reporting agencies.
Is this the person you've been dealing with?

I found it by searching Google for "Gerald TRUMAN" along with the company name.

I found no indication that any person by that name is really the owner of or even works for the legitimate company in Singapore.

The unfortunate thing is that Western Union payments are untraceable. They should never be used for any kind of online purchase or any transaction involving a person who you do not know personally in real life and have full reason to trust.
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Old 26 June 2010, 17:51
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Thumbs down Hongkong Newda Trading Co

This seller on Alibaba is a scam. I purchased a HTC Evo cell phone from them, they sent me a tracking number that was bogus and now won't answer any messages from me. I had my husband send a message from his account asking the price on an item and they answered him right away, then when he told them that he was my husband and that they weren't responding to my messages they logged offline.
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Old 22 July 2010, 02:27
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Asia communication Equipment Co.Ltd

i nearly was scammed deposited money then realized after reading about china scams. luckily money was not withdrawn yet.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/...io_Mobile.html
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Old 23 July 2010, 05:49
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Kunming ke Jin Lai Machinery and Equipment Co. Ltd

Be careful with this company. They have fake website at
http://www.kmkjljxsb.com/English/index.asp
They would send you purchase order even before seeing your samples and the worth of purchase order can easily run to several hundreds of thousands of dollars. 100% Fake. They would insist on people to travel to China to sign a agreement. Always type in some broken english and letters wont be formal ones.When I tried to call them, it looks like a male and female operate and female would speak in English and male would guide her. We were very lucky to know about this fake just in time, if not, we would have lost money on samples, courier and gift charges. They would issue purchase order with a seal and signature and it would not have addressed to seller company. It would be a general purchase order.
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Old 23 July 2010, 23:30
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iPad Scam from China?

Hi All,

Has anyone heard of Bejin Yufeng Electronic Co Ltd; names Dan Zhang & Yongqiang Wang; address 3350 Industrial Road NanYang China; website www.nt-market.com; email nt-market@yeah.com?

They appear to be doing everything in the posts.

Cheers,
Lars Hansen (New Zealand)
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www.nt-market.com is a scam. Their web site isn't working at the moment.

nt-market.com was registered only 2 months ago for a single year and that's a major red flag.

They are spamming forums, another red flag. More often than not, spammers are also scammers. Their spam advertise brand electronics which confirms nt-market.com as a scammer.
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