Madeinchina.com???

[american09]

I found a guy on this site selling tv's "CNbigmart trade co".. Great PRICES!!!LOL...I was so excited I went to western union to wire 650 usd...filled out the form but was talked out of it by W.U worker. Prices are too good to be true... has anyone heard of this site or Company??

[rusticdog]

At the very best the goods are fake, but paying by Western Union just sets you up to be scammed. Buying branded goods like this really isn't possible from 2nd rate Chinese setups.

Their profile alone should scare you off
http://www.madeinchina.com/2828571/aboutus.shtml
Over 1000 employees, with 500+ in R&D yet they sell product already manufactured by other brands, offer no OEM product, and have no website of their own ?

Frankly that WU worker just saved you a bucket load of cash.

[american09]

Yeah, I should have known better...it's just pretty hard to refuse a 60" sony lcd tv for 650 bucks...so what do you think about madeinchina.com... sholud I stay out of that site completely?? I mean,they do have CN bigmart as a gold seller. I think I'm just gonna stay out of these chinese websites completely!!

[rusticdog]

Well, if it's too good to be true, it probably is

In my view, if you want branded goods, just buy local. Safer, better options if something goes wrong with product, better for local economy. If you intend to resell then contact the brand owners for authorised dealer networks.

MadeInChina is a haven for scammers and counterfeiters alike. Do a search for Rolex and you'll see something like

Results for rolex : 3,653 items found

Then consider how many of these products are clear in their description that these items are fakes. From that, I come to the conclusion that MadeInChina is offering nothing in the way of decent buyer protection and that you should be extremely wary of any seller on the site.

[american09]

Yup, your absolutely right...I'm from Los Angeles there's plenty of good stuff down here...I just couldn't believe those prices! I'm still tempted to give that guy 650 and just pray that I get a tv in return...Even if what I order is a 60" and i get 50" in return, I'll be happy with that. LOL...Thnx for the advice bro... appreciate that!

[rusticdog]

No, that would be a really really bad idea

WU offers you no protection, so if this guy decides to send you nothing, there is zero you can do about it. This is extremely common, taking money through Western Union and sending nothing. And this is reflected by that Western Union who talked you out of it.

You just won't get it for that price, even if he did send it, imagine what the shipping and customs charges would be. If they offer free shipping then you know something is extremely dodgy.

If you need any final persuasion, check out the thousands of comments here totalling hundreds of thousands of dollars in scams being operated pretty much exactly the same way. There is no avenue to get your money back, there is no internet police to come to your aid.

http://firetrust.com/en/blog/chris/t...ms#comment-387

[american09]

LOL,I was just kidding...there's no way I'm sending that guy any money...I was just joking...I'm definitely taking you advice about buying local. Thnx again bro.

[rusticdog]

phew

[american09]

I have a question for you rustic dog.

Shanghai Integrity Export INC, claims to be registered by "China industrial and commerce Bureau". Can this be true?? If so, Would this make them a legitimate company?? I am very new at this whole online shopping thing. Have you or anyone else ever come across this company? Or a company that claims to be registered by this bureau?

[rusticdog]

It could be true and certainly would help legitimise them further. Each province within China has its own Industry and Commerce Administration Bureau...so there are many branches. The trick really is proving that they are a member rather than just taking their word for it.

Daneel has a great article here http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/...ead.php?t=9729

You can also check out this post too which details some possible contacts you can try to find out more about companies
http://firetrust.com/en/blog/chris/s...bsite-in-china
There is supposedly an online search feature, where you can check companies, but I've never managed to get any decent results.

I can't seem to find anything about that company expect their profiles on B2B sites, which to me is suspicious as you would expect some successful exporter to have it's own online presence as well.

[Lawmin]

My purchase was relatively small from www.madeinchina.com, from a distributor named supplier-good. I ordered a 100 percent human hair full lace wig. I got a 100 percent synthetic regular cap wig. I paid through paypal and I'm going to report them there also. is the www.Made-in-china.com site any better? or does any body know of good quality human lace wigs for affordable prices I am looking to start a retail business.

[lukey25]

I was contacted by a Gemsky Kasson, from Yiwu Gemsky Industry & Trading Pty Ltd, listed on madeinchina.com and ordered and paid for goods that never arrived. The company was listed as a trusted supplier.
I complained to madeinchina.com and received an email from Gonzalo, from the above company saying that Kasson Gemsky was not an employee and they had never heard of him. Gonzalo pointed out that in one email, sent by Kasson, the company name was listed as Yiwu Gemsky Export/ Import Pty Ltd, therefore Kasson was modifying their good name to scam people. But, on going over my past emails from Kasson, the original from him directly through madeinchina.com, had a direct website link to Yiwu Gemsky Industry & Trading Pty Ltd which outlined the company and that they were setting up an import export arm of the company. The email address from Gonzalo is yiwugemsky@gmail.com and the email address from Kasson was gemskykasson@gmail.com. I am really confused now as to whether Gonzalo is on the scam with Kasson. How to I go about getting my money back and/or tracing these people.

[lukey25]

Previous posts under made-in-china.com

Beware of person named Kasson... he was using made-in-china.com site to scam people by using the name of reputable companies to contact buyers. He scammed me out of $1700.00.
I have received information from the company he said he worked for, Yiwu Gemsky Industry & Trading Pty Ltd, whom I posted on this site as being scammers. I retract this as they have since contacted me stating Kasson is not an employee, but is using their good name to scam others.

They have lawyers working on tracking him down and have provided names of other companies that he poses to work for, these are:

http://www.touchus.org/wanli_teachin...nt_co_ltd.html

http://www.sumerium.com/default.cgi/...mpanyid/280838

and http://www.ecvv.com/company/zknddz/contact.html

These companies have been contacted by lawyers in China and they all state they don't have anyone by the name of Kasson working for them. His accounts with Made-in-china have been closed and he is being investigated in China.

The invoice and bank details he used are as follows:

JINHUA MEIQI IMP.& EXP.CO.,LTD
ADD: 23A06 Room Tutian Building Yiwu

ChinaBank name: CHINA CONSTRUCTION BANK JINHUA BRANCH
Bank add: NO.178 North Danxi Road, Yiwu China
Beneficiary Name: ZHANGKAI
Beneficiary address: The third floor of NO.28 building, xiafu district yiwu china
A/C:1463 7199 8011 0123 712
SWIFT: PCBCCNBJZJG
Email addresses used were gemskykasson@gmail.com and the names zhang and Kasson.

[graceyan]

Excuse me.everyone!
in my own opinion,if you buy goods online from china or from other countries,
the best payment for the first payment is Paypal.
after all,Paypal is a safe payment for the buyer.
what do you think so?
for the non-brand items or brand clones replica brands items,it is also ok.
because i ever met one shop online called *spam/deleted
they sell nike,gucci,louis vitton,rolex,gucci.
and etc many brands items.
at the starting,i also have doubt,
because i like fashion so much,like lv bag,chanel bag,and some polo clothes,they are so good in style,but originals is so expensive.
finally,i decided to buy,wait,wait,after one week,i get the items with surprise also with doubt,but when i see the items,i am so happy.
they are beatiful,same as originals,and quality is also good,maybe not so good as originals.
but it is ok.
i like them.
but remember for the first order,paypal is the best,no matter what things you buy.
i

Originally Posted by graceyan

in my own opinion,if you buy goods online from china or from other countries, the best payment for the first payment is Paypal. after all,Paypal is a safe payment for the buyer.

Wrong. Paypal is only a safe bet when used in conjunction with an e-Bay purchase. Protection of money is minimal outside that system.

The best protection is not to deal with Chinese online sellers at all.

Originally Posted by graceyan

for the non-brand items or brand clones replica brands items,it is also ok.

Clones/Replicas are ILLEGAL if they are not produced under license. Chinese sellers sell ILLEGAL clones and replicas, they are crooks.

Originally Posted by graceyan

but originals is so expensive.

So what? Is that some lame attempt at justification for your Chinese brothers and sisters scamming the crap out of people that should know better?