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Old 16 September 2008, 13:08
ogamralax ogamralax is offline
 
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WATCH OUT!!!! keviop.com is FRAUD!!!

Hi
below is the conversation between myself and one of there MSN Reps..
they have exactly the same setup as pucaty.com

operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
helo
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
i went to your website
Lemon says:
Hello
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
and i saw a few things that i am intrested in
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
please tell me how does your system work?
Lemon says:
What items are you interested in?
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
well i saw a ATV....as well as a LCD
Lemon says:
First,you send inquiry to us
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
how is the payment done?
Lemon says:
bank transfer,western union or moneygram
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
what is the banking details....and which company does the Shipping?
Lemon says:
EMS.UPS,FEDEX,DHL...
Lemon says:
Which one do you prefer?
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
well....i believe TNT has a system that protects the buyer and seller
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
where you send your goods and i pay them once i'm satisfied they release your funds
Lemon says:
yes
Lemon says:
We can send you by TNT
Lemon says:
Sorry
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
but i prefer to send your money via bank account
Lemon says:
ok
Lemon says:
What items are you interested in?
Lemon says:
Pls list the items,then we can check our stock
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
i will send you now
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
one sec
Lemon says:
ok
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
SONY KDL-52XBR5 52" KDL52XBR5 BRAVIA XBR 1080p LCD HD
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
are your prices negotiable?
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
2008 Yamaha ATV YFZ450 SE
Lemon says:
mOMENT
Lemon says:
The two items?
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
yes
Lemon says:
SONY KDL-52XBR5 52" KDL52XBR5 BRAVIA XBR 1080p LCD HD 400euro each
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
i would like more but first i want to know if price is negotiable
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
is there better price?
Lemon says:
We can beat a little ,but not too much if you buy more
Lemon says:
2008 Yamaha ATV YFZ450 SE 1987euro each
Lemon says:
Can you tell me the shipping address?
Lemon says:
Then we can calculate the shipping cost
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
1 Seikh yusuf Street, SOuth Africa
Lemon says:
moment
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
hi
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
anyone there?
Lemon says:
yes
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
im still waiting
Lemon says:
The shipping cost is about 400euro for the two items
Lemon says:
So total price is 1987+400+400=2787euro
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
but what about my discount?
Lemon says:
Hope you can buy more from us in the future
Lemon says:
So we can beat a little for you
Lemon says:
2700euro totally
Lemon says:
ok?
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
no
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
i was thinkin 2000 EUro
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
im the first time customer
Lemon says:
We will offer you VIP price when all the items you bought values 5000euro
Lemon says:
Sorry
Lemon says:
We can't beat that so much
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
ok....
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
i dont have more than that
Lemon says:
Even you are VIP member now
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
i will see first if i can get more money....i doubt it ....i only have 2,200 but the 200 is for other cost that may occur
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
if you cant give me special price 2000....then i cant buy....i want to sell it...i will tell my friends today about your website they will all buy
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
see i give u customers
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
more than 5000 Euros
Lemon says:
But we really can't purchase from our suppliers at that price
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
ok
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
thanks
Lemon says:
You pay 200euro first
Lemon says:
2000euro first
Lemon says:
You pay us extra 700euro when you sell it
Lemon says:
ok?
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
500 ok?
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
i need to make profit
Lemon says:
Because we believe we can be your supplier in long time
Lemon says:
Sorry we can't
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
ok
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
what is your banking details?
Lemon says:
moment
Lemon says:
I will email you all the details
Lemon says:
What is your email address?
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
ogamralax@yahoo.com
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
why not give it now?
Lemon says:
Bank name:Bank of China Beijing branch
Address: The first floor, Lianhe Mansion,Fengzhongsi chaoyang District,Beijing , China
Beneficiary: (First name)Guangfa(Last name)Ye
A/C No.:4340103-0188-083186-3
Swift code/Iban: BKCH CN BJ 110
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
can i have your bussines account
Lemon says:
This is our business account
Lemon says:
Boss' account
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
that is a personal account
Lemon says:
yes
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
i prefer to send to bussines account
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
not the boss account
Lemon says:
Sorry we didn't have business account
Lemon says:
We only open this account
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
then rather let me send it via money gram
Lemon says:
ok
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
what is the Benficiary details?
Lemon says:
moneygram?
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
yes
Lemon says:
The receiver first name ShuLan The receiver last name:Li City:Beijing Country:China
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
Ok....2000 Euro?
Lemon says:
yes But you have to pay the other 700euro as soon as you sell it
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
How do i know if you send the items
Lemon says:
what?
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
when are you going to ship the goods?
Lemon says:
If you pay today
Lemon says:
We can arrange the shipment tomorrow afternoon
Lemon says:
How long do you think you can sell it out?
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
i dont know
Lemon says:
But you have to give us a time
Lemon says:
You ahve to pay us the other 700euro in half month after you get it
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
Ok....let me first pay you the 2000 and
Lemon says:
ok?
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
get the goods
Lemon says:
pay the other in half a moth ,ok?
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
no...
Lemon says:
Then how long?
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
cause the shipment will only arrive in 5 weeks
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
how can i pay the others if i didnt receive the goods
Lemon says:
I mean half a month after you get it
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
ok
Lemon says:
Pls offer us the payment copy and shipping address after payment
Lemon says:
I have sent the email to you
Lemon says:
Pls check it
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
ok
Lemon says:
When can you sort out the payment?
Lemon says:
Then we can inform the shipment department about the order
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
well....i just spoke to a friend of mine
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
and he says that i must be aware of fraud websites
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
i know you are not
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
right?
Lemon says:
sure
Lemon says:
Why have such thinking?
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
im just being carfull
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
carefull
Lemon says:
oh
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
so you are 100% legal?
Lemon says:
sure
Lemon says:
120%
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
good...so you poeple wont mind using Escrow.com?
Lemon says:
We never use escrow
Lemon says:
Because we have the best price and best service
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
i know...but if you are 100% legal...you shouldnt mind using escrow...for my saftey as well as yours
Lemon says:
yes
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
so we can use Escrow?
Lemon says:
But we think it is too trouble
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
no its not
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
its very simple
Lemon says:
Sorry we don't use it
Lemon says:
We only tell you simply
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
Well...according to my knowledge if you not willing to use Escrow then you are not Legal...only scammers dont want to use Escrow.com
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
hello?
Lemon says:
Because we don't want to waste of our and your time
Lemon says:
If you think that we only can say sorry to you
Lemon says:
Because business is serious ,no joking
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
well...i dont think that...but if you 120% legal (like you said) why not use escrow?
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
exactly
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
so to show you that im serious i want to do it correct
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
Via Escrow
Lemon says:
which escrow?
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
that is the best way to buy and sell
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
Escrow.com
Lemon says:
which one?
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
www.escrow.com
Lemon says:
only this?
Lemon says:
I have ask our supervisor
Lemon says:
He told us we never used Escrow
Lemon says:
Sorry
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
Ok....if you were serious like you say you will satify the customer
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
Does the Website Pucaty.com ring BELL?
Lemon says:
?
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
well....Pucaty is 120 % ILLEGAL
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
FRAUD

operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
and your web layout is exactly the same like there's
Lemon says:
Never heard of that
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
even the same products
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
same MotorCycle
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
same country
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
same pictures
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
same sequence
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
IF YOU WANT TO DO FRAUD AT LEAST DO IT PROPELY
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
Why do you fraud the poeple hey?
Lemon says:
what are you saying
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
go to pucaty
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
check there layout
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
and there products
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
its all yours
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
tell your boss that he should be innovative
Lemon says:
Why others can't sell the same items with us?
Lemon says:
In you city,all the shop sell exactly different items
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
well...and it happens that your sequence of prducts are the same
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
i really am so stupid
Lemon says:
You said you are stupid
Lemon says:
I never said that
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
at least you could have shuffled it around not to look alike
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
i am reporting you to Fraud web
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
they are going to close your website
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
i have copied our conversation
Lemon says:
We are legal
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
Ya right
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
BOSS ACCOUNT

Lemon says:
We are not afraid of what you said
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
good
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
i think you should be as i have my lawyers busy with pucaty
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
i will latch you on
operaciones3@cronosprint.com says:
they can make one case

Lemon wasnt Afraid but she went offline while i was chatting to her.

Please investigate

Thanks
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Old 23 September 2008, 01:56
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It's true - AUSTRALIA

It true, they've access my husbands email address to send out emails from his account saying how good they are! They need to be stopped!
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