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Old 12 January 2012, 01:09
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Mysteryquest is right, you are most probably in contact with scammers. Searching for the company name has popped up various times with different contact information on B2B sites, which is an almost sure sign of scam. Please provide ALL of the contact information you have for them.

Also, I think you may find this post by Poirot, useful in your search;

http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/...91&postcount=2
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Old 15 January 2012, 22:53
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Ghana Gold Offer

Can you confirm the legitimacy of:

1. TAJ-SAL Limited GHANA
2. KONE METUAX PRECIEUX SARL IMPORT-EXPORT MALI
3. SARONGA IMPORT & EXPORT CO.LIMITED CONGO

thanks
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Old 16 January 2012, 00:34
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Can you confirm the legitimacy of:

1. TAJ-SAL Limited GHANA
2. KONE METUAX PRECIEUX SARL IMPORT-EXPORT MALI
3. SARONGA IMPORT & EXPORT CO.LIMITED CONGO

thanks
Just posting names is not sufficient, you have to post details such as their web site and email addresses, phone and fax numbers etc..,

Every single offer of discounted gold from West Africa posted on the Internet are scams **ALL of them** and Ghana is one of the worse countries for gold frauds so the odds are that all three are scams.
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Old 16 January 2012, 00:36
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You also had answers here Stormyred;

http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/...902#post145902

It would be much appreciated by the volunteers of this site if you didn't create more work by duplicating posts.
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Old 16 January 2012, 01:24
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email: aligh202@yahoo.com
A.N.T. 200
Milke-7 Achimota
Accra Ghana

tel: +233-24-5115581

Also provided us with: Bank info for Turkish Bank Vakifbank Antalya including Swift Codes & Bank Officers names. Mandate Papers for Meral Rimpel. Copy of Passport for Seller Ali Ahmed. Certificate of Corporation from Ministry of Interior.

I have requested Bank references.
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Old 16 January 2012, 01:42
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Thanks DodoBird & apologies for posting twice. SO I shall supply details for Poirot as requested:

Kone: Colour passport provided. ICC NCND provided with all details including genealogy of Mandate/Brokers with full Banking data.

Name of Seller: Mr Kone Soumaila
Company’name: KONE METUAX PRECIEUX SARL IMPORT-EXPORT
Address: KOROFINA-NORD RUE 515 PROTE 260 B.PE4090 BAMAKO MALI.
Represented by: Mr Kone Soumaila

Tel No.: 00223 77348269
Fax No.:00223 22419
E-mail :s.kone.exp.import@gmail.com
Name of signatory Mr Kone Soumaila
Nationality: Malian


SELLER’S FINANCIAL BANKING DETAIL - I have removed codes & officers name


Bank Name HSBC BANK
KINGDOM OF BARHAIN
MANAMA.
Address
MANAMA. CITY BARHAIN
Account Name Provided
Account Number / IBAN xxxx
Swift Code XXXX
Bank’s Officer Name XXX
Telephone +973 17569009
Fax +97317569552

SARONGA:
Address: plot 607,Old Bagamoyo Rd,Dar es Salaam Tanzania
Tel: 255787637287
Seller name: Michael Dickson Kimaro
Email from broker: minedekolobwe@gmail.
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Old 16 January 2012, 01:49
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The email address aligh202@yahoo.com comes up in a spam context. Plus this post I found on a forum's guest book. Its looking very much like a scammer.

Name: MR. ALI AHMED
Home page: http://
e-mail: aligh202@yahoo.com
Favourite model(s):

ATTN. BUYER, A ROYAL GOLD TREASURE FOR SALE . I HAVE THE POWER OF ATTORNEY TO REPRESENT AND NEGOTIATE ON BEHALF OF THE FAMILY. AT THE PRESENT TIME WE HAVE 450 KILOS OF ALLUVIAL GOLD DUST IN STOCK FOR SALE. THE PURITY IS 22+ CARAT PLUS OR 99.67%. OUR PRICE IS $8,800.00 PER KILO. OUR PRICE IS RELATIVELY MUCH CHEAPER - JUST TO ENABLE US ATT
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Old 16 January 2012, 01:51
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I have requested Bank references.
There is nothing to request from them. You are in contact with scammers. A simple search of the mobile phone contact will show that it's in use with these other scams;

http://www.google.ca/search?rlz=1C1E...233-24-5115581
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You have already been informed that this is mostly likely a scam in the other thread. Never pay someone you don't know for anything using Bank to Bank transfer. Please read: http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/...ad.php?t=49538
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Old 16 January 2012, 02:08
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thanks mysteryquest. no monies have been requested. CIF to refinery, payment pursuant to our refinery assay report. POF via MT799 only.

Any other info on these groups please?
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Old 16 January 2012, 02:10
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They are scammers, I should think that's all the information you will need. That's all we are here for, if you need more information, you need to contact a due diligence firm.
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Old 16 January 2012, 08:46
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Here's one ad from 00223 77348269
http://fr.canadianad.com/petites-ann...for-sale~.html
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21.08.2010 gold dust for sale
Dear , My name Is Mr. Mohamed alpha. A Native of Sanso... prix:17550 us, mohamedalpha2010@rocketmail.com, 0022377348269
And he's offering gold at half price. Common sense should tell you that the offer is a scam.

@ Stormyred, Also, what he is proposing to you is against Ghana laws regarding gold exports, if you are going to deal in certain commodities, please educate yourself on the commodity and country in question before engaging in such trade.

All offers of gold and copper cathodes from Tanzania have been frauds also, and minedekolobwe@gmail.com is offering both all over B2B sites.

I suggest you read the following All That Glisters Is Not Gold - African Gold Scams

And as you have been informed, we are not a due diligence company so you can't continue to post such gold offers indefinitely. If you insist on searching for gold at ridiculously low price, you will have to hire a due diligence company to do your research for you.
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Old 3 February 2012, 10:41
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The following offer was received via email from an associate who has now been given a "mandate" to sell, the offer being for 350Kgs of 24ct gold dore bar at a reasonably correct price. The obvious question, following all threads here and the Ghana Chamber of Mines advice, scam or no scam. I have also emailed all details to the Ghana Chamber of Mines.

I, the undersigned Mr. Jeff Mensah, under the penalty of perjury and with full cooperate responsibility and legal authority has available for sale 450 kilos of Au-Gold readily to be shipped on CIF basis to buyers’ choice of destination.

Once buyer is able to meet up with the (PROCEDURES) as stated below, then we can finalize negotiations and arrangement with our financier to make funds available to us, so we can have the products shipped to buyers’ choice of destination:
PROCEDURES:

BUYERS: Pay NO Up-Front Fees for Anything - BUYERS: Are-Not Required to Travel to Sellers Country.

1. Execution of SPA will commence immediately after Buyer Accepts the terms and condition as stated below, along with a copy of Buyers Letter of Readiness (LOR) Affirming Readiness to issue a Certified Bank Draft, as a Receipt to the Seller, in the event of Default of Payment by the Buyer to the Sellers Designated Bank Account with-in (3) Days, after a Final Assay Report has been Issued at buyers designated Refinery.
Buyer shall make available 50% of the total face value of the gold to his own Bank Account as a Block Fund and then issue a (CERTIFIED BANK DRAFT) in favor of sellers financier, as a clear evidence of been capable of buying the gold and that will also enable the Financier to make funds available to seller’s to settle the miners association with some amount of money and also facilitate the procurement of all legal Export Documentations and taxes in having the gold shipped to buyers choice of destination.

AFTER BUYER and SELLER SIGN SPA-CONTRACT:

With-in (24) hours of Returning an acceptable completed SPA to the Seller:

Buyer issues: Certified Bank Draft, in favor of Seller’s / Financier, as Proof of Funds (POF) Blocked for Thirty (30) Banking Days from Date of issue, with a Value Equal to (50%) the Total face Value of the First Shipment. Seller / Seller Financier, will Confirm and Validate the Authenticity of the Certified Bank Draft issued by buyers Bank as: Buyer Retains Total Possession of the Original Bank Draft at all times.

Buyer will forward to the Seller, a Scanned PDF-Format, and Color Copy of the Certified Bank Draft (Front and Back).
Seller / Seller Financier Accepts, Verifies and Confirms the Bank Draft (POF).

Sellers nominated Airline Agent will notify the buyer of the Airline, Flight Number, Dates, and Times of Expected Scheduled Departure, Arrival Dates, and Times, for Delivery of the Au-Gold:

The Au-Gold, are shipped and delivered (CIF) to the buyer's destination, within (10) banking days upon the Bank Draft Confirmation:

PAYMENT TERMS:

Commercial Invoices will be signed as accepted by the Buyer, and Final full payment shall be Swift Wired T/T, to Seller’s designated Bank which will be provided, within (72) hours after receipt and acceptance by Both Buyer and Seller, of the final assay report from Buyer’s refinery:

Whereby buyer and seller comes to compromise on this procedures, we can then have the FCO sent, after which the SPA contract will be signed between buyer and seller so we can move ahead with the transaction.

Your speedy reply is highly expected.

Regards,
Mr. Jeff Mensah.
Royal Gold Mining Ltd
(PO Box 10)
Tarkwa-Ghana
Tel +233206022537
royalgoldmining@gmail.com
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Old 3 February 2012, 10:50
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'Jeff Mensah' has already been mentioned on Fraudwatchers. A free email address and a prepaid mobile phone number are not good ingredients for a successful trade.

So to scam or no scam, I'd say SCAM.



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The following offer was received via email from an associate who has now been given a "mandate" to sell, the offer being for 350Kgs of 24ct gold dore bar at a reasonably correct price. The obvious question, following all threads here and the Ghana Chamber of Mines advice, scam or no scam. I have also emailed all details to the Ghana Chamber of Mines.

I, the undersigned Mr. Jeff Mensah, under the penalty of perjury and with full cooperate responsibility and legal authority has available for sale 450 kilos of Au-Gold readily to be shipped on CIF basis to buyers’ choice of destination.

Once buyer is able to meet up with the (PROCEDURES) as stated below, then we can finalize negotiations and arrangement with our financier to make funds available to us, so we can have the products shipped to buyers’ choice of destination:
PROCEDURES:

BUYERS: Pay NO Up-Front Fees for Anything - BUYERS: Are-Not Required to Travel to Sellers Country.

1. Execution of SPA will commence immediately after Buyer Accepts the terms and condition as stated below, along with a copy of Buyers Letter of Readiness (LOR) Affirming Readiness to issue a Certified Bank Draft, as a Receipt to the Seller, in the event of Default of Payment by the Buyer to the Sellers Designated Bank Account with-in (3) Days, after a Final Assay Report has been Issued at buyers designated Refinery.
Buyer shall make available 50% of the total face value of the gold to his own Bank Account as a Block Fund and then issue a (CERTIFIED BANK DRAFT) in favor of sellers financier, as a clear evidence of been capable of buying the gold and that will also enable the Financier to make funds available to seller’s to settle the miners association with some amount of money and also facilitate the procurement of all legal Export Documentations and taxes in having the gold shipped to buyers choice of destination.

AFTER BUYER and SELLER SIGN SPA-CONTRACT:

With-in (24) hours of Returning an acceptable completed SPA to the Seller:

Buyer issues: Certified Bank Draft, in favor of Seller’s / Financier, as Proof of Funds (POF) Blocked for Thirty (30) Banking Days from Date of issue, with a Value Equal to (50%) the Total face Value of the First Shipment. Seller / Seller Financier, will Confirm and Validate the Authenticity of the Certified Bank Draft issued by buyers Bank as: Buyer Retains Total Possession of the Original Bank Draft at all times.

Buyer will forward to the Seller, a Scanned PDF-Format, and Color Copy of the Certified Bank Draft (Front and Back).
Seller / Seller Financier Accepts, Verifies and Confirms the Bank Draft (POF).

Sellers nominated Airline Agent will notify the buyer of the Airline, Flight Number, Dates, and Times of Expected Scheduled Departure, Arrival Dates, and Times, for Delivery of the Au-Gold:

The Au-Gold, are shipped and delivered (CIF) to the buyer's destination, within (10) banking days upon the Bank Draft Confirmation:

PAYMENT TERMS:

Commercial Invoices will be signed as accepted by the Buyer, and Final full payment shall be Swift Wired T/T, to Seller’s designated Bank which will be provided, within (72) hours after receipt and acceptance by Both Buyer and Seller, of the final assay report from Buyer’s refinery:

Whereby buyer and seller comes to compromise on this procedures, we can then have the FCO sent, after which the SPA contract will be signed between buyer and seller so we can move ahead with the transaction.

Your speedy reply is highly expected.

Regards,
Mr. Jeff Mensah.
Royal Gold Mining Ltd
(PO Box 10)
Tarkwa-Ghana
Tel +233206022537
royalgoldmining@gmail.com
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Old 3 February 2012, 13:01
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In the "All That Glisters Is Not Gold - African Gold Scams" article (linked earlier in this thread), it clearly states that any Gold transaction must have the authority of the PMMC in Ghana...
Only agents licensed by the Precious Metals and Mining Commission ... may handle import-export transactions of these natural resources. Any transaction without the commission’s endorsement is illegal and/or fraudulent. All transactions must be completed through the commission at the price set daily by the London exchange. Any transaction that discounts this price, or includes a previously negotiated price, is either illegal or fraudulent.
You must check with the PMMC that this Ghana company is licensed. It can take anywhere up to 2 weeks to get a response, but their email address is: pmmc \at/ pmmcghana.com
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Old 3 February 2012, 13:10
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GHANA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE

Their email is as follows -

Chamber <chamber@ghanachamberofmines.org>

And at the same time as posting this thread have also received their reply as follows -
Dear
Thank you for your email.

We are by copy of this message requesting the Precious Minerals Marketing Company to assist in determining the genuineness of International Chamber of Commerce in this country.

We urge you hold on till you receive a feed-back before you involve yourself.

Best regards,

Naa Adzeley E. Osekre
Snr. Admin. Assistant
Very proactive, and certainly worth anyoine else receiving offers to contact them.

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Old 3 February 2012, 13:56
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Mr. Jeff Mensah.
Royal Gold Mining Ltd
(PO Box 10)
Tarkwa-Ghana
Tel +233206022537
royalgoldmining@gmail.com[/indent]
It's a scam

http://www.tradetuber.com/royalminig...alminigcom.htm
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We are a Family Oriented Organization of small scale surface and underground mining Associations located in Tarkwa within the Western Region of Ghana, (commonly called the "GOLD COAST"), in West Africa .
The purpose of this mail is to seek foreign partner in a sought of joint venture partnership -- who would sell our alluvia gold dust (of 22. carat gold purity).
Presently we have available in our custody Four Hundred kilos [400 kgs.]And capable of producing an est...

Company Name: THREE ROYAL MINING COMPANYGhana
Contact person: Mr. mustaper mustaper [Please Leave a Message]
Address: P. O. BOX 10, TARKWA-NSUAEM ACCRA-GHANA
Zip code: 00233
Telephone: 00233-2140-9243
Fax: 0023--212-812
The fax number is fake, and alluvial gold dust is by default unrefined and as such does not exist in the purity he claims. Likely the same scammer (same postal address) used in these obvious scam ads. He can't make up his mind if he's a society or a co-op, and why would a mining co-op sell food products.

http://www.tradeindia.com/Seller-259...cting-society/
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duabun gold prospecting society
Gold, diamond, timber, palm oil, mangoes and oranges
Address P.O BOX 10, Tarkwa - 00233, Western, Ghana
Phone No 233285346681
Fax 23321403425
Contact Person Mr. Felix Atta Mensah (Sales Manager)
Mobile 00 233285346681
http://www.recycleinme.com/rim-amoniamah/home.aspx
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Duabun Co-operative Gold Prospecting
Contact Name : Mr.Osei Nicely
Address : Po Box 10 tarkwa nsawam
City : Takoradi
Zipcode : 23321
Country : Ghana
Phone : +233-21216507
Fax : +23321216507
Mobile : +233275022665
http://ayisigold.en.busytrade.com/products.html
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Ayisi Group Mining Ltd
AYISI & GROUP MINING CO P.O.BOX 10 TARKWA W/A GHANA-WEST AFRICA
Mrs. George Quainoo
T: 233-246-790803
M: 233-246-790803
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JAMES FLAHERTY - GOLD SCAM?

Another one to add to the ilst - procedures require taxes paid in advance of receiving goods -
I am a mandate to the seller . My seller also has comfortable procedures. If the buyer will prefer not to travel over to view product and also prefer no upfront payment. The buyer can decide to provide a bank guarantee MT760 issued by swift and the seller can ship the gold to the refinery and after the assay report has been verified by the bank of the buyer the money can be released to the seller.
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> Or if the seller prefers. He/She can use the following procedure
> The subject of this synopsis is the gold production of AISIBCO LIMITED Ghana in the form of refined and stamped weight of precious metal offered for sale according to terms, specifications, conditions and procedures, as follows:
> 1. Commodity: AU Metal (Alluvial Concentrates) Gold Dust.
> 2. Quality: Fineness of 22karat or better.
> 3. Quantity: 1000kg or more
> 4. Price: US$40,000(Negotiable)
> 5. Levies & Fees:
> 6-A. Buyer-side Intermediaries’ fees per own Agreement.
> 6-B. Government levies, taxes, duties Freight and export fees as per purity based on the LME of the day.
> 6 Assay Report: Issued by Geological Survey Department Ghana.
> Buyer may opt to have his own Assayer on his own account.
> 7 Shipping Port: Kotoka International Airport (KIA), Accra, Ghana
> 8 Delivery: C&F (Cost and Freight) to Buyer’s destination airport.
> 9. Payment: Buyer shall be responsible for the Payment of Government levies taxes and export fees, totaling as per purity based on LME of the day of shipment, this shall be the sole basis for the issuance of requisite and relevant documentation from various agencies to enable export of the goods. Payment of face value of the goods shall be made not later than 72banking hours from when seller has safely delivered goods into the custody of buyer’s nominated refinery.
> 10 Documentation: Original copies of the following documents shall accompany every shipment/delivery:
>
> 11-A. Signed Commercial Invoices.
> 11-B. Certificate of Origin.
> 11-C. Assay Report.
> 11-D. Customs duties and taxes Form.
> 11-E. Airway bill.
> 12. Transaction Procedure:
> Based on negotiated terms and conditions agreed upon by Buyer and Seller, an authorized corporate officer and signatory issues a Full Corporate Offer (FCO) addressed to Buyer signed and sealed.
> Buyer responds to the FCO with an RWAP (Ready, Willing and Able to Purchase) Letter of Intent.
> Seller draws up a final Sales and Purchase Contract (SPC) containing all the terms, conditions, specifications and provisions agreed upon between the Parties, specifically the transaction procedure.
> Buyer sign’s SPC, Notarizes his signature in the presence of Seller who likewise sign’s and Notarizes his signature on the SPC. Both Parties implement the transaction through their respective representatives or officers who are provided copies of the SPC. Seller bills the Buyer for the payment of Government levies, duties, taxes and export fees as indicated in paragraph (9 above)
> Buyer makes available cost of government levies, duties, taxes and export fees seller thereby making it mandatory that title of goods and subsequent relevant documentation shall be in the joint name of both buyer and seller to instill confident in the mind of buyer due to his initial commitment.
> Seller notifies Buyer of receipts of funds and proceeds to disburse payments for Government levies, duties, taxes and export fees, thereby making room for seller to start shipping as per the SPC. Seller or his appointed officer commence loading of the export commodity, C&F to Buyer’s destination airport. Upon arrival of the cargo to Buyer’s destination airport, complete documentation is handed to Buyer or his representative in exchange for proof of delivery documents.
> subsequent shipments shall follow the same procedure as herein stipulated. Seller submits an FCO as in No. 12-1 through No. 12-7, continuing the process until stocks or funds are exhausted.
> This presentation has been authorized in appropriate resolutions of the Board of Directors of AISIBCO LIMITED International Limited, Likewise, existing Resolutions and the By-laws of the Corporation has constituted James Flaherty The seller's mandate.
> Thanks for your courtesy and consideration in facilitating this matter.
>
> James Flaherty.
> seller's mandate
> Ghana
> Level 7, Pacific Place
> Crn, Champion Parade & Musgrave Street
> Port Moresby
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Would you please publish all the contact details you have for them?
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Raw gold, Gold dust for sale; Real buyers please
Commodity: AU Metal (Alluvial Concentrates) Gold Dust.
2. Quality: Fineness of 22karat or better.
3. Quantity: 1000kg or more
4. Price: US$40,000(Negotiable)

for more information contact jamesflaherty23@gmail.com
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