Metropolitain Police Announcement - Questions

If you have any questions regarding the Metropolitain Police (London) announcement on our main page here, please ask in this thread how you may serve them.

[Nyla]

Should we attempt to keep it weeded down to scammers with an apparent UK connection of some sort (pretending to be in the UK, IP that indicates UK, phone that indicates UK, etc.) or do they want anything and everything we can shoot at them?

Hi Nyla,

The Met want everything, regardless of the letter format. I have pointed the Met towards www.joewein.de as a very hefty source of scammer emails but they are very busy with quite a lot of stuff

Any 419 email can be fired off to them, and they will appreciate it, even though they won't be able to thank everyone directly.

If they scream 'STOP' I'll let everyone know.

[Browade]

I think this is why they want it:

Home Secretary
In March 2004 the Government in its White Paper ‘One Step Ahead, a 21st
Century Strategy to Defeat Organised Crime” (Cm6167) set out its plans for
bringing a new approach to tackling organised crime, a class of crime which
causes social and economic costs of upwards of £20bn to the UK each year.
We want to make the UK the least desirable place for organised criminals to
operate. The White Paper set the direction and we are now beginning to see
the fruits of it. The Serious Organised Crime Agency (SOCA) came into being
on 1 April this year. We therefore now have a single dedicated enforcement
agency responsible for tackling organised crime and reducing the harms it
causes. Its approach will be intelligence-led and prioritised towards those
criminal networks and markets causing the most harm.
SOCA, and the rest of the law enforcement community, also needed new tools
if they were going to make the inroads required. Thus in the Serious Organised
Crime and Police Act 2005 we provided the power to compel individuals to cooperate
with investigators, and we established a clear regime of incentives for
defendants to testify against their criminal associates. These powers are now in
place and ready for use but we think that there are further measures which
would make it even harder for the criminals to operate.
Good information and intelligence are essential if SOCA is to identify and target
the most serious organised criminals, yet the level of data shared within
government, let alone between government and the private sector, is
remarkably low. This is exploited by criminals, especially those involved in
fraud. This needs to change. I believe that we can do this without infringing
data protection legislation or people’s rights.
The 2004 White Paper noted that there was a gap in the criminal law for
catching those involved at the edges of organised crime. We have now
developed proposals, building on Law Commission proposals, which would fill
that gap.
Currently law enforcement authorities essentially have a choice between
prosecution or no action when dealing with organised crime. That can be a
stark and unproductive choice and we see a place for something in between –
organised crime prevention orders – which could be imposed on individuals or
organisation in such a way as to prevent organised criminality continuing.
The Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 introduced new powers to seize and recover
criminal assets which have been strongly welcomed and have been successful.
But experience has shown that there is room for improvement in how some of
the provisions operate, and I believe we should make these improvements.
There can be no let up in our attack on organised criminality and this
consultation document puts forward proposals which build on and complement
our overall strategy. I would welcome your views on them.
Dr John Reid

One of my contacts in London has been asked to review this White Paper and respond with reccomendations before November. The paper is a 58 page PDF that I will be happy to email any of you a copy of. Just PM me the address you want it mailed to. THIS IS THE NEW WHITE PAPER ISSUED JUNE 2006

Some people are saying this is just a political ploy, but I have a feeling that in the wake of the London Bombings that the Home Office is getting very serious about rethinking the gathering of Intel on all criminal activities.

[Joe Cornflake]

I'm in the process of creating a website that receives and categorizes 419 e-mails. I could easily code the site to foward any mail to the MET with headers if that would help and it wouldn't over load them. I'm currently getting 20-30 messages a day of all types (Lottery, Next Of Kin, Fake Check/Employment).

Joe

[joewein]

I currently receive about 1,500 lad emails per day. The total count for last week was 9,500. The count since July 1 is 42,600.

Many of those are duplicates, but it still amounts to a very respectable number. Most are from a massive feed from an ISP, but I also have one email account that gets about 100 per day and several with between 30-60 per day.

I could make most of these available, with minor anonymization to protect the identity of the reporters. I know it's far more than the police can deal with.

Just to make note, that the Met's Fraud Alert section was actually set up specifically for the London area, though they are very keen to gather intelligence from a broader spectrum. They also have a very small team, just a handful.

Joe Cornflake & joewein, as long as you follow the instructions on the announcement, then they will scream at you to stop if they become swamped. I dare say I will also hear about it too.

[ARCHER3256]

I RECEIVED A LOT OF SCAM MAIL,AND I USUALLY FORWARD THEM TO 419SCAM,LIBRARY OF fw AND THE MET's EMAIL WHAT THEY ARE DOING WITH?DO THEY STOP THEM?TRACE THEM OR IT IS JUST FOR THE STATISTIC ?

Hi Archer,

As I understand it, the Sterling Operation is looking specifically for UK information, such as telephone numbers and other British details, but are actively seeking to shut down email accounts and fake websites that they see in the emails. They will accept the information you forward to them no problem, and the may pass information to other forces as needed.

[beenscammed2]

Hello,
I have just been scammed from an individual from the UK, and I have all the emails. I would like to know how to forward it as an attachment to here since I have a hotmail account. I know how to forward emails, but I'm just worried that the info of those emails would not get through if I do it wrong.
I'm not that worried about the money, but is there a possibility that the scammer could be caught? I have the city where he cashed the funds, and maybe the IP address from the emails.
For the information of all, Cali International Biz and Data Advantage Ltd are fake companies. They use www.globelink-express.com to post fake tracking numbers that never exist.
Any comments and/or help advices would be greatly appreciated!