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I received a letter that says "International random Draws WinningCertificate" with the following letter. "You are herby informed that after the just concluded PREMIER RANDOM LOTTO held in London, England, you emerged as one of the winners in the third category. CONGRTATULATIONS. Participants were selected via a computer ballot draw from One Million Five Hundred Thousand Names drawn from Europe, Asia and North America. Your name attached to coupon number 102-35485 with seridal number 004-984 drew the lucky numbers of 12-23-15-27-33 which subsequently won the littery in the third category. You have there been approved for the lump sum of $120,000.00 USD. this is from a total cash prize of $3,500,000.00 USD shared among (Eighteen) international winners in different categories. This is an annual competition organized since the New Millennium in our noble drive to go global. A sponsor's check of $2,997.50(from Decra Roofing Systems, Inc, Corona, CA) is enclosed to assist you finance your international clearance fees of $2,842.00. Your clearance fees should be forwarded to our designated North America Agent. However, you will receive a total of $120,000.00 minus $6,000.00(5% Sponsor's commission). Invariabley, you will receive a total of $114,000.00. Your aganet will give you further details. In order to avoid double claiming or unwaranted taking advantage of this program by participants and public, we therefore strongly advise that you keep this award highly confidential as part of our security protocol until your winning has been processed and money remitted to You.
To commence your claim contact your claim agent, Monica Harris, of standard Financiers at 460 Ellis Aven., Ste. 402, Calgary,AB, an accredited agency to Premier Lotto at 1-403-890-8596. Note that all prizes must be claimed not later than MAY 20,2007. Ensure you contact your agent for AUTHORIZATION AND ACTIVATION of your check."
I called them and they told me to deposit the check I received. When it has cleared the bank I am to call them and a check for $114,000 will be hand delivered to me upon showing them 3 forms of I.D.
I want to know if this is a scam before I deposit this check which looks very real.
The check will be fake or stolen and altered.
You cannot win a lottery that you did not enter. You enter lotteries by buying a ticket, that's how they fund the prizes. There's no such thing as a truly international lottery, certainly not in England. If you happen to be in the United States, you cannot even play a legitimate foreign lottery by mail or phone.
The check should be turned over to your local postal inspector or police. Cashing it can be very risky. Banks have been known to prosecute victims who deposit fake/forged/altered checks.
reddvett02@yahoo.com
1 May 2007, 19:10
I got the same letter in the mail. The cantact information was a little differnet. I was to contact Kathy Thomas of Standard Financiers at 460 Ellis Ave. Ste, 402 Calgary an accredited agency to Premier Lotto at 1-403-397-5178. The check was from General Dynamics Aviation Services Corporation po box 2206 Savannah Georgia 31402 and the check was from Suntrust Bank or SunTrust Bank, Northwest georgia, N A. It was from a Dibursing account. I email the bank and I am waiting to here from them now. I hope this will help out someone.Reco, I have the same coupon number 102-35485 with serial number004-984 and lucky number 12-23-15-27-33. I hope this helps you out. But I would deposit that check.
FW Admin
1 May 2007, 19:41
But I would deposit that check.
That would put you at risk of prosecution, as Nyla has stated.
FGodSaves
20 May 2007, 01:54
I recieved a letter and a check that read like this,
date 05/14/2007 says you are hereby informed that after the just concluded Premier Random Lotto held in Dublin,Ireland,you emerged as one of the winners in the third category.Congratulations. Participants were selected via a computer ballot draw from One Million Five hundred Thousand names(1,500,000) drawn from Europe,Asia,and North America.Your name attached to coupon number 102-35485 with serial number004-984 drew the lucky numbers of 12-23-15-27-33 which subsequently won the lottery in the third category.You have therefore been approved for the lump sum of $120,000.00 usd(One Hundred Twenty Thousand united states dollars ONLY). This is from a total cash prize of $3,500,000.00 Usd)Three Million Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars ) shared among (Eighteen) international winners in different categories. This is an annual competition organised since the new millennium in our noble drive to go global. A sponsors check of $2,9997.25 is enclosed to assist you finance your international clearence fees of $2,840.00. Your clearence fees should be forwarded to our designated North America Agent. However,you will recieve a total of $120,000.00. minus $6,000.00(5%Sponsors Commission).Invariably,you will receive a total amount of $114,000.00.Your agent will give you futher details.In order to avoid double claiming or unwaranted taking advantage of this program by participants and the public,we strongly advise that you keep this award highly confidential as part of our securtiy protocol until your winning has been processed and money remitted to you.To commence your claim,contact your claim agent BillyGardner,of Standard Financiers at 525 Ward Blvd,Ste 404 Barrie,On an accredited agency to Premier Lotto at 1-705-770-2763 note that all prizes must be claimed not later than May 31,2007.Ensure you contact your agent for the authorzation and activation of your check.Congratulatuions!Once more.Rodney Williams prize co-ordinator
ThatGrrl
20 May 2007, 07:30
Hi there FGodSaves, and welcome to Fraudwatchers.
Another fake lottery. This time claiming to be Irish, but paying out in US Dollars, and Canadian phone numbers....
Thanks for posting this latest scam example!
TG
redrose_15
21 May 2007, 22:15
Yes i recieved one too from the same Premier Random Lotto with the almost same information jus adress is diferent and contact agent name wow lol this is so stupid whAT THEY ARE DOING.
INFORMATION OF THE CHECK IS:
NATIONAL CITY BANK
OF MICHIGAN ILLINOIS
SPRINGFIELD,IL
70-2189/719
CONTACT ANGENT IS:PAMELA MILLER OF FINANCIAL GROUP
ADRESS: 225 DAVENPORT BLVD,STE. 404,EDMONTON,AB
AN ACCREDITED AGENCY TO PREMIER LOTTO AT 1-780-604-4283
OF COURSE I DIDNT WORRY TO CALL
scammie
22 May 2007, 20:58
can you go to the bank posted on the check and cash it out?
Scammie, it's not clear what you're asking. If you're talking about cashing the check, that's a bad idea. It can land you in jail for attempting to negotiate a forged instrument. If you mean contacting the issuing bank, the issuing bank will not do full due diligence for you over the phone or in person. At best, they might be able to confirm if the account exists or has funds. If it does, the check is most likely forged or stolen/altered, and you still run the risk of being arrested for cashing it.
Paranoia
23 May 2007, 13:51
I received the folowing email and had to question? I used to be a debt collector by trade and the below "ticket number" looked alot like a Visa card number. Admittedly I did leave the UK with a 200BP visa bill. However, I thought it was a small amount to be chasing from 4 years ago, in the hope they might find me. However, I would hate to assume I didnt register for some lottery 4 years ago in the UK. Please confirm this is just another scam...
You have won the sum of £1,500,000 (One Million Five Hundred Thousand
Great British Pounds Sterling) from BRITISH LOTTERY on our 2007 New
Year Charity Bonanza.
All participants for the online version were selected randomly from
World Wide Web sites through computer draw system and extracted from over
100,000 unions,associations, and corporate bodies that are listed
online.This promotion takes place weekly. Please note that your lucky
winning number falls within our European booklet representative office in
Europe as indicated in your play coupon.
You are therefore requested to contact immediately out Claims
Department below quoting winning number: WINNING
NUMBER:05-08-10-18-20-46-{43}.TICKET NUMBER: 56475600545 188
For security reasons, you are advised to keep your winning information
confidential till your claims is processed and your money remitted to
you .This is part of our precautionary measure to avoid double claiming
and unwarranted abuse of this program. Please be warned.
Contact Person For Claims: Mr Malcolm Sawford
Email:malcolmsawford@yahoo.com.hk
TEL: +447031833858
+447045705226
Regards,
MRS.GRACE WALKER
Online coordinator for THE NATIONAL LOTTERY
Sweepstakes International Programa
I recieved a letter and a check that read like this,
date 05/14/2007 says you are hereby informed that after the just concluded Premier Random Lotto held in Dublin,Ireland,you emerged as one of the winners in the third category.Congratulations. Participants were selected via a computer ballot draw from One Million Five hundred Thousand names(1,500,000) drawn from Europe,Asia,and North America.Your name attached to coupon number 102-35485 with serial number004-984 drew the lucky numbers of 12-23-15-27-33 which subsequently won the lottery in the third category.You have therefore been approved for the lump sum of $120,000.00 usd(One Hundred Twenty Thousand united states dollars ONLY). This is from a total cash prize of $3,500,000.00 Usd)Three Million Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars ) shared among (Eighteen) international winners in different categories. This is an annual competition organised since the new millennium in our noble drive to go global. A sponsors check of $2,9997.25 is enclosed to assist you finance your international clearence fees of $2,840.00. Your clearence fees should be forwarded to our designated North America Agent. However,you will recieve a total of $120,000.00. minus $6,000.00(5%Sponsors Commission).Invariably,you will receive a total amount of $114,000.00.Your agent will give you futher details.In order to avoid double claiming or unwaranted taking advantage of this program by participants and the public,we strongly advise that you keep this award highly confidential as part of our securtiy protocol until your winning has been processed and money remitted to you.To commence your claim,contact your claim agent BillyGardner,of Standard Financiers at 525 Ward Blvd,Ste 404 Barrie,On an accredited agency to Premier Lotto at 1-705-770-2763 note that all prizes must be claimed not later than May 31,2007.Ensure you contact your agent for the authorzation and activation of your check.Congratulatuions!Once more.Rodney Williams prize co-ordinator
I received exactly the same letter, Exactly! Same agent and all! Sponsor check "Hundman Lumber" now they are real, as I looked then up online and they seem to be reputable. How can these scam artists get by with using real company name's and shouldn't Hundman Lumber be contacted so that they know the scum of the earth are using their company name and address, probably dragging it through the mud and lying about them being sponsor's. I mean the company, I'm sure, doesn't even know that it is going on. Something has to change, these Loosers are giving good people false hope, I mean it just is not right.....you just want to say...........GO GET A JOB...A REAL JOB! USE YOUR ENERGY TOWARDS THAT!
Sorry, I just had to get that off my chest!
@Paranoia If you owed the 200BP when you left, you probably owe the 200BP plus four years worth of pentalty fees and interest by now. You still legally owe the debt to the company. Should you ever return, you can expect to spend quite a bit of money and time cleaning up your credit report and paying damages back, particularly if you were referred to a collection agency.
That said, collection agencies usually cannot and do not send fake lottery letters to people in order to collect on a debt.
Any and all lottery win emails are scams. You don't "register" for lotteries and win one four years later. You buy a ticket for a single drawing, and additionally, UK lotteries require that you be a legal resident of the UK, for the most part.
@TJDAHL I can say I'm part of any company I wish. Scammers pick real businesses to appear more legitimate. There's nothing a company can do to prevent a scammer/liar from saying they represent the company or sending a check from that company. It's like picking a personal name from the phone book at random. The most a business can do is place a warning on their website.
crispoz3
24 May 2007, 20:46
I must be one of the 18 people that won. I've got a check in the amount of $2,988.40 also a letter, two congradulations, a winning certificate. Instructions to contact Kevin Foster of Standard Financiers at 525 Dawson Blvd. Ste 404, London, England. I am to contact this agent for the aauthorization and activation of my check. I am homeless in a womens shelter. Thinking I won, I won. God is Good! Mr. Rodney Williams, Prize Co-ordinator. You should be ashamed of yourself. When a person wins they win. There is no set time to claim the winnings. PS: Your handwritting sucks!!!! God will deal with you scammers *removed*
premier sent me the same winning paper they havesentall of you me being a mom of 5 and out of work since january like a dummy with some hope i got the check and cashed it now the place that cashed it came to my home threating to get thecops involved i called the police they said i need to make a complaint against the company due to the fact i also got frauded but the officer also informed me i am to pay the money back i have no idea where im going to get this money to pay back this is very unfair to us all !!!!!!!!!!!!! please if any thing i hope my mistake stops any one in the future for having to go thru this :(
nicnaws
25 May 2007, 12:53
OMG loser i am so sorry to hear that happened to you! I never got a check in the mail or anything, but thank you for your post! I got an email and wanted to learn more about the scam, in which they would give no further information... so i chewed their butts out and that's the end of it. I am so sorry to hear of your current situation, and only hope that things get better and easier for you!
poor college student
25 May 2007, 22:22
I just received the letter and check in the mail today. Of course, I am a pre-law student so I thought it was a scam.... hence the reason I ended up on this site. I am so upset to be re-assured that my instincts/common sense were right... unfortunately, the cops around here just laugh at fraud cases like this and there is nothing we can really do about it. The saddest part is the fact the checks themselves are real... its just illegal to cash them.
lakerfan
29 May 2007, 04:24
I recieved a letter like so many other people have. Its dated May 14, 2007 and it says you won the third category. My lucky numbers drawn of 12-23-15-27-33. I have been approved for the lump sum of $130,000. A sponser's check of 2,995.80 is enclosed. I just want to ask that I did deposit that money over a week ago and I have not taken the rest of it to send back. Now that I researched this and found out it may be a scam. What should I do with the money I have I do not want to send it to them if its a scam. I thought it was real but I should have known thank god I found this before I went further.
mill21a
29 May 2007, 19:08
i got the same letters and checks and sent the money the heck has not bounced but i am sure it is only a matter of time. now what am i supposed to do i dont have the money to repay this and i certainly dont think i hould go to jail for being scammed.
HELP
I also got the same letter which stated that I have won $130,000. This surprised me a lot since I have not bought a lottery ticket in my life. But the check seemed so real and it had my name and address.. So I checked out on internet and came across this thread.. so now I know it is a scam.. Thanks a lot..
VictoryLeigh
31 May 2007, 16:47
Funny how they tell you to keep it confidential until you receive your money. The time limit on claiming is part of what set the senses tingling for me. I called the company that issued the sponsor check. In my case, that was SupplyOne Packaging Solutions in Cleveland, OH. They have already received several calls on the matter and have someone in charge of collecting copies of the checks, etc. I'm also thinking of going to my bank today to see if they would like to contact the proper authorities as well. Please...DO NOT CASH THESE CHECKS!
i got the same letters and checks and sent the money the heck has not bounced but i am sure it is only a matter of time. now what am i supposed to do i dont have the money to repay this and i certainly dont think i hould go to jail for being scammed.
HELP
Immediately contact your bank and notify them of what you've learned. If you've been a good customer and you notify them before the check bounces, most banks are understanding. Particularly if you have not attempted to withdraw the money.
daredev
8 June 2007, 18:24
I got exactly the same letter saying I won 130,000. I actually went through with it before I did any research, which is so unlike me. I'm so f****** stupid!!!! I've been scammed and now I'm out a lot of money. I feel so miserable.
I know it's easy to beat yourself up for falling for a scam, but keep in mind that you're not the first, and unfortunately, probably not the last.
FW Admin
8 June 2007, 19:00
Don't feel stupid; this has happened to literally millions of people around the world, at a potential cost approaching the billions. Because of the jurisdictions involving international boundaries, and the somewhat gray areas of cooperation between respective police forces, it is almost impossible to catch these criminals who hide behind the corrupt practices of national governments at high level.
Unfortunately, any money you have sent them is lost; it is impossible to get it back. Please beware of any communications you may receive claiming to be able to recover your money; these will also be scammers (possibly the same ones) who will try again and again to extort more money from you.
The best defense at this time is education and knowledge. The more people are aware of these frauds, then the less likelihood there will be of falling victim to these lowlife criminals. The ultimate dream is, of course, that as the victims fall away, the scammers will not be able to make any "profit" from their activities and eventually, with the help of the governments concerned, see these crimes dwindle away. Maybe one day...
wang_tan83
14 June 2007, 03:22
Thank you for few of you who posted caution/warning messages regarding Premier Random Lotto scam. I just ripped off the letter and the check.
I hope prosecutors can nail these scammers A.S.A.P.:thumbup:
Jeannie
15 June 2007, 20:57
I just received the check today, all the same info contact info a bit different, I knew it was a scam but checked just in case as at this time I am disabled with a child and not making it so I thought just maybe.
My question is what if I had cashed it how could I pay it back who would take care of my baby if I went to jail.
I can not believe that there really are people so cold hearted and uncaring in the world.
Somewhere someone has got to beable to stop these beasts!
Unregistered82776
16 June 2007, 00:40
thank you for the tips, I just recieved a check in the mail. I was excited as hell, I needed some money, but I got on the internet and typed in the name and all you popped up. I was headed to the bank. Thanx
AngelEyez
16 June 2007, 02:08
I recieved this same letter today (6/15/07). I was almost taken in by it for the same reason as the other lady - I'm a mother of 3 who hasn't worked since Oct. 2005 b/c our son was diagnosed with diabetes. We just recently almost lost our home & are basically living check to check so this seemed GRANDE!!! Funny these suckers seem to be "watching" us =D What inevitably gave it away for me was the incorrect grammar (check out the zero in "c0-ordinator at the bottom of the letter) & punctuation & that it's not on any letterhead (sorry - I pay attention to all that stuff)! Also, I "Googled" the phone number which came up with nothing. When I tried to find the company, I got a company in the US, not abroad. Not to mention, I don't enter lotteries =D Anyhoo, here's what mine read. I pray that this helps someone else b/c this is so sad.
Ref: #KNP 500321Z030
Winner Code: NNCP 64350
Date 06/11/2007You are hereby informed that after the just concluded Premier Random Lotto held in Dublin,Ireland,you emerged as one of the winners in the third category. Congratulations. Participants were selected via a computer ballot draw from One Million Five hundred Thousand names(1,500,000) drawn from Europe,Asia,and North America.Your name attached to coupon number 102-35485 with serial number 004-984 drew the lucky numbers of 12-23-15-27-33 which subsequently won the lottery in the third category.You have therefore been approved for the lump sum of $130,000.00 usd (One Hundred Twenty Thousand united states dollars ONLY). This is from a total cash prize of $3,500,000.00 Usd)Three Million Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars ) shared among (sixteen) international winners in different categories. This is an annual competition organised since the new millennium in our noble drive to go global.
A sponsors check of $2,996.50 is enclosed to assist you finance your international clearence fees of $2,840.00. Your clearence fees should be forwarded to our designated North America Agent. However, you will recieve a total of $130,000.00. minus $4,290.00(3.3%Sponsors Commission).Invariably,you will receive a total amount of $125,710.00.Your agent will give you futher details.In order to avoid double claiming or unwaranted taking advantage of this program by participants and the public,we strongly advise that you keep this award highly confidential as part of our securtiy protocol until your winning has been processed and money remitted to you.
To commence your claim,contact your claim agent NELSON WARD,of ALPHA FINANCIAL GROUP at MARTINS BLVD., STE. 200 SASKATOON, SK, an accredited agency to Premier Lotto at 1-306-351-4515 note that all prizes must be claimed not later than July 2, 2007.Ensure you contact your agent for the authorzation and activation of your check.
Congratulatuions ! Once more.
James Palmer, prize c0-ordinator.
blkquhlywood
16 June 2007, 02:23
I received a letter that said, PREMIER RANDOM LOTTO "International Random Draws WinningCertificate" with the following letter.
Ref#KNP 500321Z030
Winner Code NNCP 64350
You are herby informed that after the just concluded PREMIER RANDOM LOTTO held in Dublin, Ireland, you emerged as one of the winners in the third category. CONGRTATULATIONS. Participants were selected via a computer ballot draw from One Million Five Hundred Thousand Names(1,500,000) drawn from Europe, Asia, and North America. Your name attached to coupon number 102-35485 with seridal number 004-984 drew the lucky numbers of 12-23-15-27-33 which subsequently won the lottery in the third category. You have there been approved for the lump sum of $130,000.00 USD (ONE HUNDRED THIRTY THOUSAND UBITED STATES DOLLARS ONLY). This is from a total cash prize of $3,500,000.00 USD(THREE MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS) shared among (Sixteen) international winners in different categories. This is an annual competition organized since the New Millennium in our noble drive to go global.
A sponsor's check of $2,998.40 is enclosed to assist you finance your international clearance fees of $2,842.00. Your clearance fees should be forwarded to our designated North America Agent. However, you will receive a total of $130,000.00 minus $4,290.00(3.3% Sponsor's Commission). Invariabley, you will receive a total of $125,710.00. Your agent will give you further details. In order to avoid double claiming or unwaranted taking advantage of this program by participants and the public, we therefore strongly advise that you keep this award highly confidential as part of our security protocol until your winning has been processed and money remitted to You.
To commence your claim contact your claim agent, DEBRA WILSON, of ALPHA FINANCIAL GROUP at 1550 Davenport Blvd, Ste. 202 Calgary,AB, an accredited agency to PREMIER LOTTO at 1-403-399-4679. Note that all prizes must be claimed not later than JULY 2, 2007. Ensure you contact your agent for AUTHORIZATION AND ACTIVATION of your check."
CONGRATULATIONS! Once more
JAMES PALMER
PRIZE CO-ORDINATOR
The Check look REAL, I did not Buy any Internationl Lotto Tickets, and wanted to know what the hell was going on. I Google the Bank (The 3 Grand woudl be nice why pay some Agent) I called Customer Service of LaSalle Nation Bank (the check was made on that Bank for a Company Name: ITS Technologies & Logistics, LLC) and explained to the Rep what I had received. The Rep advise me that this is a scam and refered me to their Sweepstakes Scam Unit @ 800 295-6601 (Office Hours Monday - Fridays 8:00am to 6:00pm EST) I will be giving them a Call MONDAY Morning 6-18-2007
raikor5
17 June 2007, 02:00
i got the same letter 6/16/07, mailed 6/11/07. check for 2,994.60. total winnings 130,000 split between 16. coupon, serial number and lucky numbers all the same as everyone else. i'm to contact BECKY JOHNSON of ALPHA FINANCIAL GROUP at38 HOWE AVE, STE 306, BELFAST, IRELAND at 011-353-867314346 no later than7/2/07.
raikor5 in TX
vacafamily
17 June 2007, 04:38
I received the same letter. I've just got home from a stressful 12hour day of work. I opened the letter about 5min. ago and read it. Now I'm a father of 3 and my spouse is due in a couple of months with our fourth baby. Ofcourse, immediately I was excited. It sounds so convincing. I tell her, "babe, we can pay of the house and cars and be out of debt." As sceptical as she is, she says, "when did you enter a Lotto?" I went straight to the computer, to Fraud Watchers. Now here I am sharing. After reading comments here I put the letter in a ziploc baggie. I'm reporting it to the police and I'm going to contact the company the check supposidly came from. Thanks Fraud Watchers for being here to save me from making a BIG BIG mistake.
twylite
17 June 2007, 08:42
I too received a check and letter today dated 6/11/07. Everything is the same as the latest postings state with the exception of my agent is a Charles Rogers, of Alpha Financial Group with the address of 1550 Denver Blvd, Ste 304, Winnipeg, MB. Mine too would have been a gross winnings of 130,000.00 netting 125,710.00. The check is suppose be from the sponsoring sponsor named Sierra View District Hospital! (red flag) While this is a true authentic hospital/business, I have a very hard time believing a hospital will sponsor a lotto. Maybe asking someone else to sponsor them where they get the big pot of winnings, but not them forking out big monies. Reading the winning numbers, coupon numbers and serial numbers the schemers have used, they are all the same. 102-35485, 004-984, and 12-23-15-27-33. Ref#KNP500321Z030 Winner Code: NNCP 64350.
I too could really use the money, as each and everyone of us could. That is how they snag and catch us. I hope the other lady will NOT be so hard on herself. These people have made an art of manipulating others all their lives, and have learned how to use this manipulation through letter verbiage to reach out to a vastly larger audience. That's why you hear of these scums, here at this site, other sites, the news and TV movies. Don't hate yourself, put it where it belongs, on them. If they weren't so good at scamming/manipulating people like us, this place/site would not have to be here.
twylite
17 June 2007, 19:32
Here is another person who recieved the same letter I did. Only they are in Texas where I am in Florida. I am calling the same people he has to inform them the scam is here in Florida also.
Report: #254729 @ http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/254/RipOff0254729.htm
Marlo Howard
18 June 2007, 18:31
The checks that you receive are FAKE! I received the same letter:
You are hereby informed that after the just concluded Premier Random Lotto held in London, England, you emerges as one of the winners in the third category........
The company name on the check that I received was Citrus Hill Golf & Country Club in Hernando, FL from Bank of America. I went to the Bank of America to see if this check was real. It turned out that this check was not real and the Citrus Hill Golf & Country Club have been notified that there ID had been stolen and is being used in this scam.
I then called this number back that was supposed to be for Becky Johnson of Alpha Financial Group at 38 Howe Ave, ste. 306, Belfast, Ireland. Just to see what she would do, I told her that I had the cash in my hand and she told me to immediately go to a Wal-mart that had a Money Gram and wire the cash to Becky Johnson, Ottawa City, Ontaria, Cananda in the amount of $2650.00 and I was supposed to call her back with a confirmation number. They speak fast enough that no trace can be made. But the number that was called is 011-353-867314346.
stupidme
20 June 2007, 05:27
I recieved the check a couple days ago. i didn't believe it, even tho the check looked real. I showed my live in bf, he is very smart when it comes to things like this. So i listened to him and cashed it. I tryed calling the number but all i got was a answer machine. I paid off my debts. Now thier is a chance i might go to jail, i have 7 children, what am i going to do. the bank took it like no problem. I more than likely will be hearing from them, soon.
I wished i looked into this sooner, but we just got our internet going again.
Will i really have to serve time? How long?
hi i have been sent an E-Mail from yahoo mail saying that I have won £820,000.00 on there lottery,
and I was just wondering if any one else had received one the same type of letter
I recieved the check a couple days ago. i didn't believe it, even tho the check looked real. I showed my live in bf, he is very smart when it comes to things like this. So i listened to him and cashed it. I tryed calling the number but all i got was a answer machine. I paid off my debts. Now thier is a chance i might go to jail, i have 7 children, what am i going to do. the bank took it like no problem. I more than likely will be hearing from them, soon.
I wished i looked into this sooner, but we just got our internet going again.
Will i really have to serve time? How long?
Unfortunately, you will be responsible for repaying the amount of the check when it bounces. And it will bounce. That much is certain.
You need to take action as soon as possible. The worst thing you can do is avoid the bank until they come looking for you. Notify the bank immediately of what you've learned, and ask if you can make arrangements to repay the money you withdrew in installments if that's necessary. Most banks will be fairly understanding about this if you have been a good customer in the past and you notify them as soon as you can rather than letting them discover it on their own. Some banks aren't nearly as understanding, sad to say, but as I said, the worst thing you can do is hide and hope it goes away.
totrusting
21 June 2007, 20:28
I got the exact same letter from Premier Random Lotto. It said I won 130,000 USD and to get it I needed to cash the check and call my agent, Charles Rogers of the alpha financial Group in Manitoba, Canada.
I called him and he answered right away, I asked all the questions about this being a scam and he said all the right answers. He told me to deposit the check and call him when the funds were available. I called the MN attorney generals office to find out if this is a scam and they did not have record of them so I beleived this.
I deposited the check and so far nothing has happened. I called him back and he was not available to talk. Now I decided to do a search and found this. Before depositing the check I searched for both bank of Sierra, and Sierra Veiw Hospital, both exist. That is why I deposited it.
What do I do now. I thought I had checked them out, by looking all that up. I am scared. We have lots of financial issues already and i don't need a hassel. Can someone help me out.
As stated in the post right above yours, notify your bank that you've discovered you were scammed and the check will bounce. You'll need to make plans to repay any of the money you've withdrawn. If you haven't withdrawn any of it, there likely will be no repercussions at all if you notify the bank as soon as you can.
amandar
23 June 2007, 03:56
you do not want to cash or deposit that check it is a forgary trust me i already tried and the check cashing place said that if i ask for the check back they would have to call the cops so i didnt bother with asking for it back. i called the people back and i told the that the cops have the check and the lady told me she would have to speak to her supervisor and she would call me back but she has not called back yet so i do plane on fixing them.:o
IF U RECIVED A LETTER TELLING U THAT U WON A LOT OF $ IS JUST A SCAM DONT DEPOSIT U COULD GO TO JAIL. TAKE THE LETTER AND THE CHECK TO THE COOPS
Michelle Valdez
28 June 2007, 15:34
this past Dec 2006 we got a check and cashed it at a check cashing store by our home in California. we didn't have a checking accoount at that time. 6 weeks later we get a call from the place we cashed it at and they wanted all the money back in full. we didn't and still don't have it in full. they have refused payments and now the sheriff's department is threatening my husband to put him in jail.
they are not investigating these people at all they are trying to say we made the check and committed fraud.
please catch these people i know personally others that have been scammed by these people..
Michelle Valdez..
FW Admin
28 June 2007, 16:34
I'm sorry that you were scammed, Michelle; unfortunately the burden of liability does rest on you/your husband, since he is the one that cashed the check. Once the sheriff's department is involved, you need to make sure that you have presented all the correspondence (the letters, the envelopes in which they and the check came in - handle as little as possible - and the emails that you have exchanged with the scammers - also the payment slip information of the cash (Western Union?) that you undoubtedly sent to the criminals.
Repayment of the cashed amount is necessary, and hopefully if no charges are made, the store will accept an instalment scheme from you. However, look at it from the store's side; your husband has brought a check in and cashed it; it turns out to be a dud. They have no way of knowing whether he is in a 'crime ring' or not, so of course they have to inform law enforcement.
Unfortunately, the real criminals behind all this live well outside of any legal jurisdiction of your country. Actual identification of the perpetrators is next to impossible, and they all hide behind very solid layers of anonymity and corruption. The police of those countries serve the master who pays them the most, and scammers are known on frequent occasions to bribe police with the equivalent of a month's salary just to turn a blind eye.
why do you people send these kind of checks that look so real and get people to believe that they are intitled to that certain amount of money when you people dont even have a real working number for us to call and verify or get info on the bull**** checks your sending us ?
if this is a scam i will make sure that i report it
i know what to do im a very smart person so please if this is a scam let us know and please stop sending them to us.
but if it is real please send me a name and number of someone i can talk to about claiming the checks i have recieved in the mail .
thank you very much
Nitemare
28 June 2007, 19:37
Vision Foundation Lotto is a rip out and will keep asking for more money.
Beware stay away.
FW Admin
28 June 2007, 19:38
Erika; by "you people" I assume you mean the scammers... and there's a simple answer: they are scammers.
This is their "job", their "livelihood". This is the way they have chosen to make money - by stealing it from other people. They don't care one jot as to how it leaves their victims; they simply go on to the next one.
And no, none of it is real - none of it. There is no-one to speak to regarding winnings, because the winnings don't exist. If you speak to someone at a number that they have given you in the email, you will be talking to the criminals - of course they are going to try to convince you that it's legitimate (until they can con some money out of you).
These scammers are in countries where law and order is controlled by the deepest pockets. Law enforcement from places like the USA, Canada, the UK, Europe... they are powerless to do anything simply because there is little, if any, cooperation between international agencies. Plus there's the small fact of trying to identify the scammers in the first place.
To fight the scammers, the best weapon is education and awareness. The more people know about these frauds and their formats, the less likely the scammers are to make any money out of it, and eventually they'll have to get out and do some honest work... yes, far fetched, but we can all dream.
Reporting these scams will only work if any money has been given to the scammers; until money has actually changed hands, there is technically no crime. If you have received a check through the postal system, you can report it to your local law enforcement and the postal inspectors. Whether much can be done (given the constraints described above) with the report is anyone's guess; however, it does add to the statistics which do play an important part eventually in legislative changes.
QMoore
29 June 2007, 16:08
I got the exact same check in the mail yesterday!!! Called the number which was 011-44-7948335814 in which my "agent" VALERIE WILLIAMS of the ALPHA FINANCIAL GROUP located at 120 ELLIS AVE, STE 4002, London, England. The check I received in the mail was for 2,998.90 and my int'l clearance fees was 2,845.00. I was instructed to deposit the check into my account and once it cleared I would withdraw the funds needed and moneygram or wester union the money to BECKY COOK (the north american agent) 145 Eastern Ave, Toronto, Ontario, Canada, M5A-1H7. I truly believe that this is a crying shame that these companies can actually take advantage of hard working citizens of this lovely country and totally get away with it!!! TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY, WE DEPOSIT THESE "CHECKS" NOT KNOWING THAT WE CAN BE PROSECUTED AND HAVE TO PAY THE MONEY BACK!!!!!!!!!! I'm a married mother of 2 and my husband and I often struggle to make ends meet. I wish there was more That we could do to stop these IDIOTS!!!!! I'm SOOOOO glad that I found this site, and found out what was really going on!!!!
crs069@charter.net
30 June 2007, 05:38
my fiance and i thought that this was the answer to all our heartaches. it just caused more. now we owe the bank that has no remorse for our stupidity and we are both out of almost 4000.we were hoping to make things better for our kids and now cuz of this scam we have to both get a second job just to try and pay back the ****ing bank that dont seem to care about anything except thier money.dont let yourself get ****ed like we did just to try and make your life better.keep working and live day by day.NOTHING IS FOR FREE.WE LEARNED THAT THE HARD WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mystic_philly
17 August 2007, 22:31
:x OK, I got the same letter stating the same thing but different $$ amounts( and different company). Unfortunately we deposited the check into our account believing that it was totally legit. We spent some of the money( we have an 8 month old with needs...go figure!) but when we went to get something we needed a week later, our savings was overdrawn the amount we left in there from the check. Authorities say they can do NOTHING, due to the FRAUDS being out of the country, all we can do is feel like total and complete reject and pass on that there is a scham going on in their town.....what about those families who NEED money to survive. Lost money means your children go hungry, you go hungry, you lose the home you had before the *******s got a hold of you and everything you cherished is gone...just because some <removed> created a damn scham and rolled with it. Where is the justice?! What are we to do?
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