Eureot - Scam site?

[Unregistered]

Hi, I just got an ebay message from a chinese supplier offering goods. Suspect? Seems a bit dodgy to me, very cheap prices. I know they are listed in your suspect list, but can you confirm?

ebay message :

my dear friend :
Please allow us to disturb your precious time!
We are the one of centa electronic wholesaler company in China
If you want to do business, we can offer you the most reasonable price, making we get profit each other.
If you are free, please visit our website,Please contact with us, we will give you a satisfying answer.
Our Web address BE: http://www.eureot.com
MSN: eureot@hotmail.com

[Daneel]

Prices like those on brand name electronics are impossible for any real company, ask anyone in the business. If you even have a vague idea of how the market really looks like this is the easiest way of recognising these scams. There are tons of these websites exporting all kinds of cheap branded electronics from China, they're all scams. Here are two with similar design:
http://www.aeoea.com/Home.asp
http://www.aeuto.com/

[Daneel]

Not to mention...
www.ceuec.com
www.ussvdm.com
www.etwom.com
www.digitalcamerasc.com
www.wecto.com
www.usdwto.com
www.eurdut.com
www.dwuom.com
etc...

[Unregistered]

Thanks for that. :)

[Unregistered]

im down 100 pounds because of these people....silly me

[Unregistered]

I knew in my heart it was a scam..I got the ebay message as well.......I was so tempted by the cheap dj equipment..


close but not close enough scammers!!!!!! :)

[Unregistered]

...just received over ebay even a mail like this ****. Please allow us to disturb your precious time! We are the one of centa electronic wholesaler...... ect ect ect.
but thanks to your messages here and to my distrust
to this people i erase it... i never will understand why people try to get
our money for nothing. in german language we have a phrase for this.
the lightning shall hit this guys when they sit down and ****.
greetz from germany urbansoldier

[Unregistered]

im an ebayer and im sick to dealth to get emails from these people i dont buy anything over seas i am australia so i buy what is here i can tell them what they can do with their precious time as they are invading mine.
they must be desperate to get into ebay and start to send emails i just tell them to P*ss off some i dont hear back from they get the hint after a while or just dont email them back delete them emails they get the hint after a while

[ThatGrrl]

Yep, you're doing the right thing it just deleting the emails. Don't even bother replying to them with a few choice words, it's not worth wasting you time on. Seriously. Just delete them and be done with it.

Congrats to all for spotting the scams!

TG :)

[Unregistered]

look at all the sites thay all have the same stuff the same categorys and html designs on it

[borut247]

I have also been scamed 100eur. and on these website:

http://www.wdzmc.com/
http://www.jyu1688.com/

...I have paid over bank wire.... and now they said, that i need to pay tax another 100eur...

i knew that it is a fraud, i found a similar website, and they use paypal.

Can they scamm you also via paypal?

[Daneel]

Yes, it's not unusual for scammers to have PayPal. They can withdraw the money as soon as they receive it, and you will be unable to recover anything. If there is no money left in the account, you have no protection.

[Ydna]

I have also been scamed 100eur. and on these website:

http://www.wdzmc.com/
http://www.jyu1688.com/

...I have paid over bank wire.... and now they said, that i need to pay tax another 100eur...

i knew that it is a fraud, i found a similar website, and they use paypal.

Can they scamm you also via paypal?



Dear Borut247,

I am interested in learning more details about the problems related to purchases from these Chinese companies. Any more details you can provide are very much appreciated! For instance:

1. When exactly was your order paid for?
2. How did you transfer your money, by Western Union, Bank Transfer from a bank account of yours, or credit card?
3. If you have received your order at this time, what can you tell us about the quality of the products you received?
4. If you did not yet receive your ordered and paid for merchandise, what seems to be the holdup at this point?
5. Who exactly is claiming the additional "100eur" in "tax?" Is it the company that you are buying from, or is this a claim by for instance the customs office in your own country?
Thank you very much for your consideration!

:)

[Ydna]

im down 100 pounds because of these people....silly me

Dear Unregisterd Guest,

It is nice to be anonymous and it sometimes very wise never to register for anything, especially under anyone else's trusteeship, but that aside...

I would find it most helpful to know just a little more about your claim of being "down 100 pounds because of these people..."

If you could specify:

1. The URL to the ones you made your payment to?
2. The date you made your payment?
3. How did you transfer your money, by Western Union, Bank Transfer from a bank account of yours, or credit card?
4. How long have you waited without any delivery?
5. If you have received your order at this time, what can you tell us about the quality of the products you received?
6. If you did not yet receive your ordered and paid for merchandise, what seems to be the holdup at this point?

[jarellanes]

i paid 650 USD for a camera from aeoea.com and after i paid they told me i had to send another 402 for shipping tarriff or some stupid ****. I am very ****ed about this because i sold my old camera on ebay to upgrade and was mesmerized when i saw how low the prices were so i ordered and got screwed. its my fault though.

If its too good to be true, it probably is!

avoid www.aeoea.com

I have been fighting with them to get at least some of my $650 back but they keep insisting that i pay the $400 extra for the tariff. BOGUS!

[randomer]

i also decided to invest in some cheap eletronic goods from www.ceuec.com i sent a total of €816 in gutted! i never recieved any goods and the website has since disapeared! think i should be more careful next time!

[Unregistered1]

Hey guys

I empathise with most of youre problems because i too am a victim of these fraudulent chain of companies. My case has to do with www.kqlliuc.com, who uses kqlliuc@hotmail.com as msn, & stwop@hotmail as an ebay email. Now i won an ipod on ebay form they for $AUD 212.50(including P&H), and at the time- my doubt arose more so from the quality of the product, rather than the whether or not the dealer was a fraud. However, once he told me that i could only pay through an international bank transfer, we agreed that id pay half the amount, and he'd send the ipod over, and then id pay the other half. However once i paid the 106.50, he told me that his boss was angry with him for offering me the half payment deal, meaning i had to pay a discounted other half -AUD $90 before hed send it over. Once i paid (i paid 100$, as thats the minium i could send overseas) he got angry with me got not paying 106.50, saying that he only offered me 90 because he thought i was going to china.

While i'm gutted at losing 200 odd dollars, i must also only blame myself. I hop that we can spread the news about this disease that is threatening to kill the beauty of online shopping through ebay.

Good luck with all of you guys, and i will keep everyone updated on my situation.

[Unregistered1]

Hey gutted, i have tried to investigate youre problem, this lady named IVY is on msn using www.ceuec.com and they use A new website called www.fairbtd.com

[kkhanalvi]

i just payed five hundred pounds for items off this site (Eureot), then realised that it MIGHT be a scam? is it? and have i lost my money?

[poirot]

It depends what you mean by "just" paid. If it's in the past few hours, you should contact Western Union immediately to reverse the transfer and pray that the money hasn't been picked up.

If it has been picked up, there is no recourse with Western Union unfortunately.

[kkhanalvi]

i payed from the bank yesterday. and it has now gone out of my account???????

[kkhanalvi]

is there any proof that this site is really a scam? has anybody ever recieved anything from them? euerot?

[Nyla]

Please read Daneel's earlier post.

Prices like those on brand name electronics are impossible for any real company

The prices are unrealistic, the only way they can make money is by scamming people. You can't sell electronics for less than they cost to make and make a profit.

[kkhanalvi]

hi. this eureot site has just asked me to pay custom fees for my order? is that correct?

[kkhanalvi]

hi, did you pay the tariff fee? and did you recieve anything?

i paid 650 USD for a camera from aeoea.com and after i paid they told me i had to send another 402 for shipping tarriff or some stupid ****. I am very ****ed about this because i sold my old camera on ebay to upgrade and was mesmerized when i saw how low the prices were so i ordered and got screwed. its my fault though.

If its too good to be true, it probably is!

avoid www.aeoea.com

I have been fighting with them to get at least some of my $650 back but they keep insisting that i pay the $400 extra for the tariff. BOGUS!

[Nyla]

I'll point this out again.

The site eureot.com has to be a scam. The site aeoea.com has to be a scam. The prices listed on both of these sites are completely ridiculous. They are unrealistic. They are probably lower than the cost of manufacture for some of the products listed. The sites could not possibly sell these goods for that price and make a profit. They would be losing money on every single product sold.

Take, for example, the Nikon D70s. It apparently retails for approximately 700 Euros. The aeoea.com site lists it for the completely absurd price of 119 Euros. The Pioneer television retails for 2040 Euros.

Basic economic rules apply here. Even at wholesale prices and dealing in extremely big volume, you are going to pay at least 70% of retail for a piece of electronic equipment. In some cases, you will pay as much as 90%.

If you continue sending money, they will just keep making up phony fees to pay.

[cdub]

hey guys, i have been sussing out this eureot site for about a week and a half and there is something not right, i was ssoooo close to ordering something but then backed out, im not willing to take the risk. they have 60" sony lcd tv's for 500 euro!!! its ****ing ridiculous!!! the guy i bought the info to get the site said he brought a alpine dvd head unit and it did come, so im not sure, he said he just ordered some more stuff and im waiting to hear if it comes
any info that you guys have about this site would be much appreciated!!

[Nyla]

We've posted, repeatedly, over and over, in this thread, that the site has to be a scam. The prices listed are impossible. If this site were selling electronics at these prices and actually sending them, they would be LOSING money on each sale. How many more ways can we say it?

the guy i bought the info to get the site said he brought a alpine dvd head unit and it did come, so im not sure,

So, if I'm understanding you correctly, you paid someone for the information about ordering from the site? You don't think someone who got paid for telling you to order from this site might have an incentive to lie about receiving his own merchandise? Or might even be one of the scammers profiting from the site?

[Daneel]

I've heard scammers selling links to their own scam sites before. And claiming to be their own customers is always a useful tactic. There even seem to be those who actually do deliver on small orders, and get those customers to advertise for them, in order to get larger orders where they can scam people for a lot more money.

You can't trust anyone.

[Unregistered1]

I ordered two items from wtoeur.com. I was absolutely mesmerized by their prices and since I could not pay by paypal I was investigating the other methods of payment. Then did a google search for this company or rather for Beijing HuaHai Eletron and Electrical Equitment Co and found this site. Fortunately I have not paid anything yet but have received their invoice twice with this message:
dear friend : thanks for your attention to our website first . but we have to confirm that whether you still want the object that you ordered before . we have already finished packaging your item just waitting for your payment , so that we can soon send it to you after we make sure we get your payment . please confirm that in your qucik response . if you don't want that any more . we will cancel your order list soon . looking forward to your quick response. very cordially

I don't intend to reply.

[ml_electronics]

hi i have lost £400 nealry from bogus scam sites

the first being a connman using another website the second being a a web site called www.newegg.com which has now shut down the third being a website called supply-digital.com these were for items like ps3 and ipod nanos

there is a site called www.tradekey.com an the companys have a trustprofile only deal with people with 30 or more hope this helps

[Nyla]

I think you may be mistaken about the website address on one of those. Newegg.com is a long-established and as far as I know, respected retailer. I certainly can't recall them ever being accused of scamming. And they're still in business.

[cdub]

this scam stuff is freakin bull****!! the prices are insanely cheap and now there telling me they can ship it to me in 3-5 days to australia!! come on!! it takes 3-5 days to 'ship' a letter from next freakin door!!
2nd of all i googled this eureot.com's address and found another site, almost exactly the same but different 'company' pictures!! its crazy!! within 40 mins of searching i found 6 sites that are almost exactly like this eureot.com!! same layout and everything!! i sent an email to the eureot dude with the address of all these sites and told him his site is a ******* scam and theres no way he is gettin my money unless he sends the **** first. its funny how there 'friendly' business emails change then, and after i said i reckon his site is bull**** and i dont trust my items are goin to come.................he has yet to reply.
i feel like sending him an email making out im the beijing police or some**** just to make him sweat and see if he shuts his site down

PEACE

[Frazzle]

cdub, can you please leave the profanity out of your post? Generally, people don't like to read words like that.

In fact, if was a businessman and I received an email like that, my "'friendly' business emails" would probably change too.

There is no point in pretending to be the Beijing police... scammers know that their chances of identification, let alone capture and conviction, are practically zero.

If you want the site shut down, send a polite email to their hosting company, pointing out the scam evidence.

[yabalu_robbers]

This branch of Bank of China in Beijing is
a huge den where thieves and robbers
ask you to send money to.

Just do a google search for

"No.8 yabaolu"

and you will find among the first two hundred hits,
dozens and dozens of these fly-by-nighters,
they take your order and have you send money,
and ask for sending more, for shipping and tax,
then, when they think they got enough,
the site will be gone-with-the-wind,
and so does your hard-earned-money.

"No.8 yabaolu" is the address for
a Bank of China branch in Beijing.

So be warned, when you are asked to
send money to this branch,
avoid! avoid!! avoid!!!

swift code: BKCH CN BJ 110

do a google search for this SWIFT CODE likewise.
and find many of these sites.

They all have the same kind of designs.
and google search their acct# or name,
you will often find they are the benificiary of two or more
similar sites.

Avoid like a pleague!!!

i have gathered no less than 2 dozen such sites, and
will post these soon. use:

www.who.is

and do a search on their website,
and you will find they have just
recently registered, most of them in March 2007.

think about it, can a big company, some of them claim
to have more than 1000 employees, and with a picture
of a fancy building, only registered their webstore
in March of 2007 ???

share this with others,
unfortunately, most often time
only when a person was caught in their hooks
they come here for confirmation.

they register a lot of ebay accounts and
send massive letters to ebayers,
many take the baits.

[Nyla]

Bank branches aren't really an indicator of reliability or lack thereof. The banking laws in China allow a scammer to open a personal, non-corporate account at ANY bank without showing identification or any traceable information quite easily. As far as I'm aware, the problem is not limited to any particular branches or banks.

[happydaysbusiness]

http://www.wzemdt.com/


this website has alot of cheap goods like REALLY CHEAP

AS I was curious they sent me this to prove it was not a scam

Hello,thanks your reply.

Without trust each other,even a transaction worthy a singel penny is a waste of time and energy as well as money!

Here to give you a reference ,I provide a few tracking numers which will guide you the whole trasaportation precedure.

1)Seeing is believe ,let the facts prove everything!!!
You can check it on www.EMS.com.cn the result will tell you ours seriouness!
*USA: EA971470996CN EA910658216CN
*Italy: EA910658162CN EA909472165CN
*German: EA910730145CN EA911007622CN
*Canadan: EA971471064CN EA971470608CN
*AUSTRALIA: EA889767305CN EA890030022CN
*SPAIN: EA910658220CN EA911008937CN
*Greece EA910653528CN

2)we are a digital wholeselling company which authouried by the China Foreigh Trade Association homely,and supervised by the International Trade Law.Our goods are delivered worldwide!So the legecy is the basis of our company!

*Enterprise name: beijing kuaiwei company haidian district filiale
*Enterprise address:205 number 4 floor 331 ridgepole
zhong guan village haidian district Beijing
100021

*Legal Representative: shu shen huang

*Business license registration number:1101081806432

Best wishes.

isit definatley a scam

[Daneel]

Yes. No real company has prices like that, it's ridiculous and impossible. Any scammer can provide working tracking numbers, and you have no way of knowing if anything more than a rock was sent. As far as I know, you can't verify Chinese company registrations easily unless you know Chinese. Read here for more information on Chinese companies:
http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9729

[Antoniyo]

I setn $1495 to buy Iphone I got 2 cheap fake iphones
BEWare there EVil Never Buy From them

[Nyla]

I'll remind folks once again, there is no such thing as buying an unlocked iPhone. There is currently no such thing. You can only buy a real iPhone through a cell phone carrier. At the moment, AT&T/Cingular is the only carrier offering them in the States, and they are not yet available in Europe, I believe.

If someone claims to be able to sell you an iPhone, you can be assured they're a scammer or counterfeiter.

[mattu009]

yep! I got three messages in the last two weeks! They are almost always un registered users on ebay and ask nothing about the item they message you through. I have not tried to buy and don't think anyone should if they can't sell on ebay then they can't sell anywhere I'd think!
Hi, I just got an ebay message from a chinese supplier offering goods. Suspect? Seems a bit dodgy to me, very cheap prices. I know they are listed in your suspect list, but can you confirm?

ebay message :

my dear friend :
Please allow us to disturb your precious time!
We are the one of centa electronic wholesaler company in China
If you want to do business, we can offer you the most reasonable price, making we get profit each other.
If you are free, please visit our website,Please contact with us, we will give you a satisfying answer.
Our Web address BE: http://www.eureot.com
MSN: eureot@hotmail.com

[zonerider]

I am also tempted to purchase 2 DSLR cameras from this site http://www.elewto.com any feedback about this site? I am really deadset to purchase, but somehow my gut tells me otherwise. Any info will be greatly appreciated. Many thanks and God bless!

[Daneel]

Trust your gut, it's the exact same type of scam.

If you Google their Chinglish motto "Our belief: credit is the first, customers are our god"
http://www.elewto.com/help.asp?id=3
You'll find it's quite popular among Chinese companies...

http://www.powersellershop.com/
http://www.ebay688.com/
http://www.iocu188.com/HOME.asp
http://www.ebaywto.com/
http://www.lovelysales.com/
http://www.elec-storm.com/about.asp?action=about
http://www.ebaywto.com/info.asp?typename=about
http://trade686.com/index.php?gOo=help_copyright.dwt
http://www.trade88.com.cn/about.asp?action=about
http://market6888.com/help.asp?action=about
http://www.bamshop168.com/about.asp?action=about
http://www.qkbuys.com/about.asp
http://www.curiobag.com/
http://www.bestdealwithyou.com/about.asp?action=about
http://www.au89.com/about_us.php?osCsid=a266b6be09e455df2ce9891f82e46d01
http://www.beijingmp3.com/
http://www.ele-eur.com/help.asp?typeid=2
http://www.chaussue9.com/strong-02/index.htm
http://www.ebayot.com/info.asp?typename=about
http://www.kldows.com/info.asp?typename=about
http://www.eur16868.com/info.asp?typename=about
http://www.ebaygw.com/in.asp
http://pyctua.com/about.asp?action=about
http://www.ebyzz.com/about.asp
http://www.wotoao.com/about.asp?action=about
http://www.eur6688.com/about.asp?action=about
http://trade968.com/about.asp?action=about
http://pwsyet.com/about.asp?action=shouhoufuwu
http://www.wzemdt.com/about.asp?action=shouhoufuwu
http://www.lifeexshop.com/HelpList.aspx?id=6&aid=6
http://www.mall6699.com/about.asp?action=about
http://www.mguojie.com/help.asp?typeid=1

And yeah, it's all fraud. They're making good money off of eBay traders who fall for their silly prices...

[MfG]

well, look at this:

Date Posted: 05:01:19 07/24/07 Tue
Author: Tony Peters (MOBILE PHONES)
Subject: I-PHONE,NOKIA N97,N95,N93I,8800,PS3,SIDEKICK 4,NINTENDO WII

THIS ARE SOME OF THE MOBILE PHONE AND MODEL
> THAT WE HAVE IN STOCK
> FOR NOW
> >
> > NOKIA 6090(UNLOCK)-- US$90
> > NOKIA 6100(UNLOCK)-- US$80
> > NOKIA 6600(UNLOCK)-- US$80
--
[Shorted down long list of ridiculously unrealistic prices]
--
> Sony FWD-50PX1 Plasma TV --$800
> Sony KDE-50XS955 Plasma TV-$750
> Samsung HP-R4252 Plasma TV-$400
> Samsung HP-R5052 Plasma TV-$800
> Samsung HP-P5581 Plasma TV-$1000


CHAT WITH US ON OUR MSN ACCOUNT ONLINE=

TODAYELECTRONICSWORLD2007@HOTMAIL.COM

IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN ANY OF OUR OFFER PLS DO MAIL TO...
TODAYELECTRONICS@KATAMAIL.COM
TODAYELECTRONICSWORLDSALES2007@GMAIL.COM
TODAYELECTRONICSWORLD@INDIATIMES.COM

OR CALL US ON...

+2348022750249
+447024031137
MGT.

Kind of obvious... and the only payment method is.... WU. makes me sick to think about i almost sent the money for a nokia n95. i made a new email account and added them on hotmail and started asking questions... when i asked about iphones they said that 8gb iphone was fully unlocked and they sell for 210$...lol also they state they have 10 units of nokia n97 ... a phone that doesnt exists.... kind of sad eh?

[sharbear]

Just wanted to let you know that they hacked into my ebay account and sent that same message out to several sellers under my name. Ebay caught it so they could not do anything else!

[Team Scam]

i am the member of the team scam , we still a lots of money from you people of USA this is funny you are the most stupid people on the earth ,so give us all your money and suck us the big cook black ..**** of

[Rob]

Big Cook Black? You mean this one?

http://www.scientomogy.com/stopscientology/chef_scientologist1.jpg

[Daneel]

I believe he's trying to tell us that he's cooky.

[Nyla]

Or maybe that he wants a cookie? Maybe the cookie is to go with whatever rotgut he's brewing in the still.

[Lixson]

I have an idea.

Since I do trade with china for quite long time. I know prices of nearly any kind of electronics goods sold there. So if admin agrees, I can post a topic, where I'll put ACTUAL chinese prices for various goods. Of course, without specifying a supplier.

For example, currently prices for LCD TV are as follows:

in US $

17' - 150
19' - 180
20' - 220
26' - 280
32' - 470
32' Plasma - 650

These are average prices collected over several reliable and tested suppliers. NOTE: These are not any known brand models, these are generic chinese noname/strangename devices (Like PANASOANIC, PHILLPS, TOHMPSON, etc). For some additional fee, or if order of volume is more than 500-1000pcs, these manufacturers will write any brand as you desire - like SONY, TOSHIBA, SAMSUNG, etc but won't fake famous CHINESE brands - like KONKA, TCL :)

Prices are actual as FOB Shenzhen, MOQ 100pcs.