PART PAYMENT SENT

[Unregistered]

Good day XX,

How are you and your family doing today? I want to let you know that a part payment of $96,000 has been made out to you by my customer(Mr Christopher Mena), which you will receive this week. As soon as you receive the cheque I want you to go ahead and deposit it in the bank, you are to get back to me immediately cheque is deposited, to let me know the exact date funds will be available.

Once again, thank you for being part of our global vision.

Respectfully
Sae-joo Chang
chairman.
[MITSUBOSHI-SHOJI CO. LTD]















I want to let you know that, we did receive a check in the amount stated above.
I also read on another website affiliated with yours, to not deposit the check, because it will just bounce back & we will be left with a huge debt, & possible criminal charges.

I'm hoping someone can verify that this is truly a scam email, & get back to me as soon as possible.

[FW Admin]

If it's a request that you send money back from the "deposit" via Western Union or similar cash transfer, then yes, it's a guaranteed 100% scam.

All such checks are forgeries - dud, stolen or faked. These checks always come back as such, and the banks will have no hesitation to hold the account holder liable for any funds drawn against it.

[cmh18]

Yes, I just went to my bank today.

I asked them to call the bank in Ontario (where we got the check from), and she found out that the person who sent the check really only has $300 in his account [which according to my bank teller wasn't even legally supposed to be told to us (my mother & I) from the Canadian bank].

So, meanwhile I stopped into my local Sheriff's Department & talked with the Sheriff. He told us many things we didn't know about what to look for to identify fraud on not just the check we recieved, but also we received a money order earlier this month which actually did bounce in my account & has caused it to be overdrafted $2500. The money order was counterfeit, we are trying to resolve this issue right now with the help of his Department, because my mother only recieves disability (which is $623 a month; & our mortgage is $540, so we really have no way of repaying this debt to my bank). However, he said it is very unlikely the person who sent me the fraudulant money order would ever be caught, and it is very upsetting because we honestly thought the money order came from a company my mother was going to be working for.

I'm just really upset, & I'd figure I'll share this with all of you since your cause is for the greater good. I personally wish I could help stop this type of "scamming"... & any help I can supply I will gladly do it. I will post the email msg's & replys here in this topic that we recieved after we got the money order, so that you can read how my mother was scammed.

So, my mother was really the one who got me into this, I told her to ignore the emails that they were "too good to be true", but she didn't believe me, even though I've been on the computer day after day since I was 9 years old (I am now 18).

But I appreciate the reply, & I know for sure today that it was a scam.

[cmh18]

Well I went through my mother's emails; She must have already deleted the "scams". So here is basically the story:

At the beginning of the month the local UPS truck stops by our house & drops off a package. I take the package in to my mom, and we open it to find a letter inside with a money order for $2500 contained in it. Immediately my mom takes a look at the front of the package to see who it's from. The person's name on the UPS package is "Mrs. Michelle Anthony", the address is: "312 West 36th Street, New York, NY 10018".

My mom couldn't think of who the package would be from, she first thought maybe it was something she won from one of the various companies she works for (Shoppers Hotline, Watkins, AVON, etc...). We both figured maybe they just hadn't contacted us yet.

So the next day we took the money order to the bank, where I got an account for myself. We took out some money to pay our bills, buy me some new clothing, & then we used the rest for various other items we needed.

Two days after my mother recieved an email from the "scammer" asking if she recieved the UPS package & gave us the tracking number. By this time, my mom knew what had happened. She told him exactly how the scenario went down with us, when we recieved the package. The scammer didn't seem to get that the money was gone, & he almost became angry with us. He started calling us, & harassing us. Eventually this led to us changing our phone number, we had no idea the money really wasn't there anyway.

So, yesterday I found out that my bank overdrafted my account the $2500 because the money order came back as a counterfeit, & today my mother recieved a check I mentioned earlier for the $96k+ amount, and this time we had the bank look into it first, & we found it was a scam for sure. The bank is still expecting us to pay back the $2500, but we hope there will be options with the local Police Department & Sheriff's office or even the Government. The Sheriff's office wants to involve the FBI, but I don't know if they will pursue that.

I want to bring these people down, just as much as any of you do, I wonder if there is still hope of doing that.

[Nyla]

I'm so sorry to hear that you and your mother were scammed. The sheriff wanting to involve the FBI is at least somewhat encouraging. It means the case will at least be investigated. Many police departments decline to even take a report. However, it is very rare for scammers of this type to get arrested, unfortunately.

[cmh18]

Yeah, I'm happy he is going to do something about it.

He said there were already 4 cases since December here in this little town where I live.

It's just very disappointing to hear it.

[Unregistered]

Yes, I received 96,000 dollar cashiers check from a company in Michigan. I found the company in the yellow pages. I was told to deposit the check. I wasn't sure because I had emailed the company about the check and they did not reply. I phoned the company but it was a recorded message asking me what ext I wanted. I left a voice message to the president of the company. I didn't hear anything. I didn't have a bank account. I tried several banks but they refused me because I had a bankruptsy several years ago which had been discharged. Since I wasn't working I didn't have any income and no bank would let me open any type of account. Well I used that check and twenty dollars to open an account. The bank was glad to open it for me. I asked when the check would clear and they ran it through the computer and told me, its clear right now, how much cash do you need. I said none, I'm going to wait a few days because I figured it was a scam. I told the "company that sent the check it was going to take ten days to clear", they didn't like that! Several days went by, almost a week and then the bank notifyed me that the check was fake. They told me they received 2000 identical checks. I asked them what would have happened if I did cash that check and they told me I probably would have been sitting in prison right now. One good thing came out of that. I finally got a bank account.