Scam or not

[Zahid Sultan Jadoon]

Hi,

My brother bought a ticket from the web site of www.national-lottery.co.uk and received the following email:

The National Lottery
P O Box 1010
Liverpool, L70 1NL
UNITED KINGDOM
(Customer Services)
Date:December 1st, 2005

Ref: UK/9420X2/68
Batch: 074/05/ZY369


ATTENTION: JUNAID BABAR,

CONGRATULATIONS! This is to inform you that you have been cleared a winner of the UK NATIONAL LOTTERY online Sweepstakes International program.
I am happy to inform you, your Original Certificate and your Certified bank cheque has been fowarded to the courier company.
Find below the details of the courier company.

MAILPOST COURIER SERVICES
ADDRESS OF HEAD OFFICE:Link House, 1C CHURCH STREET,
WHITCHURCH, HANTS, RG28 7AD ENGLAND.
NAME:MR STEVE WHITE(dispatch officer)
EMAIL:customer_mailpostcourier@hotmail.com
FAX:+447092863185
TEL:+447040122326.

You are advised to send the courier company a mail to their email address for their courier cost. When contacting them, you are to include this order number and your contact address as your subject. Please you are adviced to write down your contact address and save it.

ORDER NUMBER:U562725

Note: You are to quote your complete names, Ref/Batch Numbers, winning amount and your direct phone number so that they can honour your letter. Once again i say congratulations and always inform me of your dealings with the courier company.

Mr. Larry Peters.
Claims Agent,
Phone:+447031847074
UK NATIONAL LOTTO.

After we contacted the courier company they sent us the following email:

MAIL POST COURIER.
(REG NO:103309).


7TH DECEMBER, 2005
Reg order no:U562725
ATTENTION:JUNAID JADOON,

Thanks for contacting us customer .

This is to inform you that you have been officially cleared for payment by the Verifications Dept. at the headquarters of the UK National Lottery.

The original copy of this certificate and your cheque from the British government stating that the money was obtained legally through their National Lotto will be sent to you and the bank as soon as you meet with any of the option selected and your winnings will be couriered or transferred to you immediately.

You can now begin the final step of the claims process, which is the transferring of your cash prize to you. With regards to this, there are two options open to you, you are required to select the most convenient of the two.

The options, together with their associated conditions are presented below:

OPTION 1:
Courier of your winning draft to you via any of this channel listed below:


Mailing &n bsp;.................................................£205 .00
Insurance................................................... .........£350.00
Vat (5%)........................................................ .....£044.75
TOTAL....................................................... ........£599.75


UPS(3working days)
Mailing &n bsp;................................................. £189.00
Insurance................................................... ..........£350.00
Vat (5%)........................................................ ......£038.95
TOTAL....................................................... .........£577.95


POST OFFICE MAIL(7working days)
Mailing ;........................................................... ..£130.00
Insurance................................................... .........£350.00
Vat (5%)........................................................ .....£019.00
TOTAL....................................................... ........£499.00

The insurance company declined reverse payment for the courier, stating that it is against their professional policy towards ensuring the safe delivery of the draft to you. That if a reverse payment is made, and something goes wrong, that we/you cannot sue the courier company or insurance company to recover the full value of the fund as stipulated in the draft since payment for insurance cover was not made at point of mailing.

With the above reason, reverse payment is ruled out.Forward the cost of mailing your draft with any of the courier channel cost you choose above to us.

OPTION 2:
Condition: The cost of COT (commission of transfer) being charged by our transfering bank, which is (£2,000GBP) of the cash being transferred will be paid by you(winner).

Note that your prize is protected by a hardcover insurance policy by GEOTRUST INSURANCE COMPANY, which makes it impossible to deduct any amount from the money before it has been remitted to you. This means that the above charges cannot be deducted from the prize and hence must be provided by you before your prize is transferred to you.

Also attach a scanned copy of either your driver's licence, international passport (photo page) or any other legally identifying document.

Also be reminded that the deadline for the claiming of winnings is exactly two weeks after the receipt of this email. After this period, your cash prize will be deemed to have been forfeited by you and will be reused in the drawings of the next edition of the lottery.

Good luck and Congratulations once again. Please send your response within the next 24hrs to this same email address.

Mr.Steve White(dispatch officer)
Management
MAILPOST COURIER SERVICE.
customer_mailpostcourier@hotmail.com
Phone number:+447040122326
Fax number:+447092863185
Open 7days-24hrs-365days a year(MPC)

I would appreciate if your could guide us about whether it's a fraud or a genuine one.

Regards.

Zahid Jadoon

[Ansett]

Absolutely a scam - more info on the way, but this is definately NOT legitimate at all.

http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/p/promotions/promotions.do?promo=commonscams

Items on that page to note -

Fraudulent (Scam) Emails – what to do first

Lottery scam (fraudulent) emails are increasing at an alarming rate.

Scam emails try to persuade the email receiver to submit personal information or to part with money as an up front payment in order to release a winning lottery prize.

As a general rule, if you have not purchased a ticket for the UK National Lottery, you won’t have won a prize, and you should treat the email with absolute caution.

The following points are some things to look for in order to identify a fraudulent email:

* We don’t advise that a Player has won a prize on an email. If the email says ‘Winning Notification’ or ‘Lottery Sweep Stake’ in the text, the email you’ve received is not from UK National Lottery.
* We don’t put winning numbers or winning dates on an email
* We don’t advise of a winning amount on an email
* We don’t ask for any Player information like name, address or bank details on an email


There is no need to contact us if you have received a lottery related scam (fraudulent) email.

As we are constantly looking to improve our communication with our players, we have now changed all our email addresses to the following:

* admin@national-lottery.co.uk
* player@national-lottery.co.uk
* play@national-lottery.co.uk
* subscription@national-lottery.co.uk
* help@national-lottery.co.uk
* play@play.national-lottery.co.uk

We will now use only these addresses to send you all important communication such as winning notifications, purchase confirmations and rollover alerts.

The scam email your brother has been told to email is a hotmail address (you can get one of these yourself at www.hotmail.com - they are free) and the UK phone numbers are redirection numbers. I would say your scammer is actually in Africa but without the headers I can't be 100% sure.

If you have any further queries let us know :)

[Daneel]

I moved the rest of the conversation here (http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=749) :)

[Unregistered]

I received a letter same with yours, the only differece is the email address where it came from and the names of the contact person and courier service.

What shall I do, is this really a scam? tnt is the courier service they told me where to get my money.

Pls e mail me: <admin edit - removed personal details>

NELAIDA <admin edit - removed personal details>

[Frazzle]

Unregistered... read what Ansett wrote. Verify it for yourself:

As we are constantly looking to improve our communication with our players, we have now changed all our email addresses to the following:

* admin@national-lottery.co.uk
* player@national-lottery.co.uk
* play@national-lottery.co.uk
* subscription@national-lottery.co.uk
* help@national-lottery.co.uk
* play@play.national-lottery.co.uk

We will now use only these addresses to send you all important communication such as winning notifications, purchase confirmations and rollover alerts.

If your letter uses an email address other than one of the above, then it's a scam. In which case, throw away the letter and do not communicate with the scammer (or his fake courier company) any more. The only money in this is yours, and they are trying to steal it off you.

[agdemora@hotmail.com]

I WANT TO KNOW THAT THIS IS REAL:

MAILPOST COURIER SERVICE LTD.
Head Office:Mailpost House,Courier Avenue,Manchester.
Wythenshawe,M23 0WS,
Tel:+44-( 701) 113 7127

Date :23-03-2007
Order Numbers:#952368
Attention: AMOY GARNETT DE MORA,

You are welcome Mailpost Courier Service System. Dispatch LTD an affiliate of the Tagged Promo Lottery, we are please to be at your service.Be notified that your winnings was forwarded to our courier agency for onward delivery to you.

This means that you have been officially cleared for payment by the Verifications Dept. at the headquarters of the Tagged Promo Lottery. Instruction given to us is that Tagged Inc. does not allow us to deal with a third party.

You can now begin the final step of the claims process, which is the transferring of your cash prize to you. With regards to this, there are two options open to you, you are required to select the most convenient of the two.(You are to make your prefered and affordable choice in OPTION 1)

The options, together with their associated conditions are presented below:

Courier of your winning draft to you via any of this channel listed below:

DHL (Overnight Delivery)

Mailing: £197.939 GBP
Vat: £178.146 GBP
TOTAL: £376. 085GBP


UPS (48 Hours Delivery)




Mailing: £176.085 GBP
Vat: £178.558 GBP
TOTAL: £354,643 GBP


FEDEX (72 Hours Delivery)


Mailing: £156.291 GBP
Vat: £178.558 GBP
TOTAL: £334,847 GBP


The insurance company declined reverse payment for the courier, stating that it is against their professional policy towards ensuring the safe delivery of the draft to you. That if a reverse payment is made, and something goes wrong, that we/you cannot sue the courier company or insurance company to recover the full value of the fund as stipulated in the draft since payment for insurance cover was not made at point of mailing. With the above reason, reverse payment is ruled out. Forward the cost of mailing your draft with any of the courier channel cost you choose above to us.


Option 2:
The said amount $1,500,000.00 USD (One Million Five Hundred Thousand Dollars) will be wired to your bank account via swift bank transfer.

Condition: The cost of COT (commission of transfer) being charged by our transferring bank, which is £ 3,943.59 GBP of the cash being transferred will be paid by you before the bank can effect the transfer of your cash prize into your account .


The delivery option which you've chosen. You can do the transfer by WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER (WUMT) to the courier company account officer with the details below:

Mrs. Justina Francis
55 Courier Avenue,
Manchester,United Kingdom.

Details of your payment should be sent to us including

SENDERS NAME:
SENDERS ADDRESS:
(WUMT) MTCN NUMBER:

Your bank details(if you have chosen option 2, bank transfer.)

Attach a scanned copy of either your driver's license, international passport (photo page) or any other legally identifying document and send to us for identification purposes.

Having done this,you would be given proper guidelines on how to go about sending the payment.

Payment of the courier charges should be made to the account officer via Western Union Money Transfer .After you have make your choice you are to let us know the choice in which you have make so that we can give you the officer details which you are to pay to.Once this is done you are to furnish us with the payment details(Senders name and MTCN) via email.On receipt of these, your consignment would be delivered to you within 24hours.

We await your positive response.

Yours Sincerely
Mr Sammy Woodard .
(DISPATCH OFFICER)
MAILPOST COURIER SERVICE.

TEL:+44-( 701) 113 7127
FAX:+44-( 701) 113 7127


MAILPOST COURIER SERVICES

This email (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2521 and is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. This email (including attachments) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system.

[Nyla]

No, the lottery email you received is not real.

You cannot win a lottery you did not enter. You enter by buying a ticket. If you have no ticket in your possession, you cannot be a winner. Real lotteries do not collect contact or any personal information about you. Real lotteries do not use +4470 numbers, which are personal forwarding numbers that can be redirected to any phone in the world. Real lotteries do not ask you to pay any sort of fee to claim or ship a prize, since that would violate advance fee laws.

[FW Admin]

Indeed; as Nyla says, it is a complete fraud.

The "company" (which is a totally bogus one) has a website hosted by Tripod (http://mailpostcourieruk.tripod.com/) and does not exist. It is not a real company.

[swetsuga15]

I WANT TO KNOW THAT THIS IS REAL:

MAILPOST COURIER SERVICE LTD.
Head Office:Mailpost House,Courier Avenue,Manchester.
Wythenshawe,M23 0WS,
Tel:+44-( 701) 113 7127

Date :23-03-2007
Order Numbers:#952368
Attention: AMOY GARNETT DE MORA,

You are welcome Mailpost Courier Service System. Dispatch LTD an affiliate of the Tagged Promo Lottery, we are please to be at your service.Be notified that your winnings was forwarded to our courier agency for onward delivery to you.

This means that you have been officially cleared for payment by the Verifications Dept. at the headquarters of the Tagged Promo Lottery. Instruction given to us is that Tagged Inc. does not allow us to deal with a third party.

You can now begin the final step of the claims process, which is the transferring of your cash prize to you. With regards to this, there are two options open to you, you are required to select the most convenient of the two.(You are to make your prefered and affordable choice in OPTION 1)

The options, together with their associated conditions are presented below:

Courier of your winning draft to you via any of this channel listed below:

DHL (Overnight Delivery)

Mailing: £197.939 GBP
Vat: £178.146 GBP
TOTAL: £376. 085GBP


UPS (48 Hours Delivery)




Mailing: £176.085 GBP
Vat: £178.558 GBP
TOTAL: £354,643 GBP


FEDEX (72 Hours Delivery)


Mailing: £156.291 GBP
Vat: £178.558 GBP
TOTAL: £334,847 GBP


The insurance company declined reverse payment for the courier, stating that it is against their professional policy towards ensuring the safe delivery of the draft to you. That if a reverse payment is made, and something goes wrong, that we/you cannot sue the courier company or insurance company to recover the full value of the fund as stipulated in the draft since payment for insurance cover was not made at point of mailing. With the above reason, reverse payment is ruled out. Forward the cost of mailing your draft with any of the courier channel cost you choose above to us.


Option 2:
The said amount $1,500,000.00 USD (One Million Five Hundred Thousand Dollars) will be wired to your bank account via swift bank transfer.

Condition: The cost of COT (commission of transfer) being charged by our transferring bank, which is £ 3,943.59 GBP of the cash being transferred will be paid by you before the bank can effect the transfer of your cash prize into your account .


The delivery option which you've chosen. You can do the transfer by WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER (WUMT) to the courier company account officer with the details below:

Mrs. Justina Francis
55 Courier Avenue,
Manchester,United Kingdom.

Details of your payment should be sent to us including

SENDERS NAME:
SENDERS ADDRESS:
(WUMT) MTCN NUMBER:

Your bank details(if you have chosen option 2, bank transfer.)

Attach a scanned copy of either your driver's license, international passport (photo page) or any other legally identifying document and send to us for identification purposes.

Having done this,you would be given proper guidelines on how to go about sending the payment.

Payment of the courier charges should be made to the account officer via Western Union Money Transfer .After you have make your choice you are to let us know the choice in which you have make so that we can give you the officer details which you are to pay to.Once this is done you are to furnish us with the payment details(Senders name and MTCN) via email.On receipt of these, your consignment would be delivered to you within 24hours.

We await your positive response.

Yours Sincerely
Mr Sammy Woodard .
(DISPATCH OFFICER)
MAILPOST COURIER SERVICE.

TEL:+44-( 701) 113 7127
FAX:+44-( 701) 113 7127


MAILPOST COURIER SERVICES

This email (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2521 and is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. This email (including attachments) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system.



hey everybody i have got this same mail EVERYHING the same as the one from Amoy so they try to win money with alot of people using te same trick but i got this mail on April 11, 2007.. i hope people dont fall for this trick....

[tassos7]

Hey I also got this same email today. Why are these guys allowed to get away with it? Has anyone tried calling the telephone number provided?


Hi,

My brother bought a ticket from the web site of www.national-lottery.co.uk and received the following email:

The National Lottery
P O Box 1010
Liverpool, L70 1NL
UNITED KINGDOM
(Customer Services)
Date:December 1st, 2005

Ref: UK/9420X2/68
Batch: 074/05/ZY369


ATTENTION: JUNAID BABAR,

CONGRATULATIONS! This is to inform you that you have been cleared a winner of the UK NATIONAL LOTTERY online Sweepstakes International program.
I am happy to inform you, your Original Certificate and your Certified bank cheque has been fowarded to the courier company.
Find below the details of the courier company.

MAILPOST COURIER SERVICES
ADDRESS OF HEAD OFFICE:Link House, 1C CHURCH STREET,
WHITCHURCH, HANTS, RG28 7AD ENGLAND.
NAME:MR STEVE WHITE(dispatch officer)
EMAIL:customer_mailpostcourier@hotmail.com
FAX:+447092863185
TEL:+447040122326.

You are advised to send the courier company a mail to their email address for their courier cost. When contacting them, you are to include this order number and your contact address as your subject. Please you are adviced to write down your contact address and save it.

ORDER NUMBER:U562725

Note: You are to quote your complete names, Ref/Batch Numbers, winning amount and your direct phone number so that they can honour your letter. Once again i say congratulations and always inform me of your dealings with the courier company.

Mr. Larry Peters.
Claims Agent,
Phone:+447031847074
UK NATIONAL LOTTO.

After we contacted the courier company they sent us the following email:

MAIL POST COURIER.
(REG NO:103309).


7TH DECEMBER, 2005
Reg order no:U562725
ATTENTION:JUNAID JADOON,

Thanks for contacting us customer .

This is to inform you that you have been officially cleared for payment by the Verifications Dept. at the headquarters of the UK National Lottery.

The original copy of this certificate and your cheque from the British government stating that the money was obtained legally through their National Lotto will be sent to you and the bank as soon as you meet with any of the option selected and your winnings will be couriered or transferred to you immediately.

You can now begin the final step of the claims process, which is the transferring of your cash prize to you. With regards to this, there are two options open to you, you are required to select the most convenient of the two.

The options, together with their associated conditions are presented below:

OPTION 1:
Courier of your winning draft to you via any of this channel listed below:


Mailing &n bsp;.................................................£205 .00
Insurance................................................... .........£350.00
Vat (5%)........................................................ .....£044.75
TOTAL....................................................... ........£599.75


UPS(3working days)
Mailing &n bsp;................................................. £189.00
Insurance................................................... ..........£350.00
Vat (5%)........................................................ ......£038.95
TOTAL....................................................... .........£577.95


POST OFFICE MAIL(7working days)
Mailing ;........................................................... ..£130.00
Insurance................................................... .........£350.00
Vat (5%)........................................................ .....£019.00
TOTAL....................................................... ........£499.00

The insurance company declined reverse payment for the courier, stating that it is against their professional policy towards ensuring the safe delivery of the draft to you. That if a reverse payment is made, and something goes wrong, that we/you cannot sue the courier company or insurance company to recover the full value of the fund as stipulated in the draft since payment for insurance cover was not made at point of mailing.

With the above reason, reverse payment is ruled out.Forward the cost of mailing your draft with any of the courier channel cost you choose above to us.

OPTION 2:
Condition: The cost of COT (commission of transfer) being charged by our transfering bank, which is (£2,000GBP) of the cash being transferred will be paid by you(winner).

Note that your prize is protected by a hardcover insurance policy by GEOTRUST INSURANCE COMPANY, which makes it impossible to deduct any amount from the money before it has been remitted to you. This means that the above charges cannot be deducted from the prize and hence must be provided by you before your prize is transferred to you.

Also attach a scanned copy of either your driver's licence, international passport (photo page) or any other legally identifying document.

Also be reminded that the deadline for the claiming of winnings is exactly two weeks after the receipt of this email. After this period, your cash prize will be deemed to have been forfeited by you and will be reused in the drawings of the next edition of the lottery.

Good luck and Congratulations once again. Please send your response within the next 24hrs to this same email address.

Mr.Steve White(dispatch officer)
Management
MAILPOST COURIER SERVICE.
customer_mailpostcourier@hotmail.com
Phone number:+447040122326
Fax number:+447092863185
Open 7days-24hrs-365days a year(MPC)

I would appreciate if your could guide us about whether it's a fraud or a genuine one.

Regards.

Zahid Jadoon

[kingleo]

FINAL RELEASE PROCEDURES
From: MailPost Courier (mailpostcouriersltd@yahoo.co.uk)
Sent:Saturday, 4 August 2007 3:20:05 a.m.
To: alan pahl (alan-pahl@hotmail.com)






MAILPOST COURIER SERVICE LTD.
Head Office:Mailpost House,Courier Avenue,Manchester.
Wythenshawe,M23 0WS,
Tel:+44-( 701) 113 7127

Date :03-08-2007
Order Numbers:#952368
Attention : ALAN PAHL,

How are you doing? I am writing to inform you that required amount for the postage of your Cheque to you in New Zealand is about £376 which equvelent to 1,001.95 NZD in you country money and this postage fees will be sent by you through Western Union Money Transfer before we can confirm your payment and post your Cheque to you immediately we hear from you with your payment. Follow the instruction below.
The delivery option . You can do the transfer by WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER (WUMT) to the courier company account officer with the details below:

Mrs. Alice Behrens
55 Courier Avenue,
Manchester,United Kingdom.

Details of your payment should be sent to us including

SENDERS NAME:
SENDERS ADDRESS:
(WUMT) MTCN NUMBER:


Payment of the courier charges should be made to the account officer via Western Union Money Transfer .Once this is done you are to furnish us with the payment details(Senders name and MTCN) via email.On receipt of these, Your Cheque will be posted and a tracking number will be issued to you to enable you track your package.

We await your positive response.

Yours Sincerely
Mr Sammy Woodard .
(DISPATCH OFFICER)
MAILPOST COURIER SERVICE.

TEL:+44-( 701) 113 7127
FAX:+44-( 701) 113 7127


MAILPOST COURIER SERVICES


This email (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2521 and is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. This email (including attachments) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system.

[FW Admin]

Yes this is a complete scam - an absolutel fraud.

Fake company name, fake address and fake telephone numbers... to top it all off, payment by Western Union requested by a UK business? Never!

Definitely a scam. Delete the email, and cease all communications with these criminals.

[elated loser]

RE:lottery scam

i got same email saying i had won...i laughed in email when he asked for a thousand dollars to send a cheque, so he replied that i could come and pick it up
i gave the phone number to a friend i have in england to check that picking it up was ok...the man was shocked to find someone in england would pick up a cheque for someone in australia lol
he refused her on the phone and simply kept repeating "send me the money"...this guy watches too much jerry macguire

i was receiving many emails from this sammy woodard guy ...a dozen or more in total

this is a scam...and in my haste i quiclkly wrote a bat file and made it look like a word document and called it "copy of cheque" and sent it to him as an attachment...

This file was designed to wipe the windows folder and its key componants

there have been no more emails to me

strike one for the good guys


thank you for reading

[John Fairheart]

in my haste i quiclkly wrote a bat file and made it look like a word document and called it "copy of cheque" and sent it to him as an attachment...

This file was designed to wipe the windows folder and its key componants

there have been no more emails to me

strike one for the good guys

So what you have succeeded in doing is probably damaging a computer in an internet cafe, which the scammer couldn't care less about. I'm sure the cafe owner will be overjoyed that some script kiddie has sent a malicious email to one of his patrons with the express intention of breaking property. Try using your braincells for something constructive instead of becoming part of the problem.

"Two wrongs do not make a right."

[FW Admin]

As John says; a very high percentage of scammers use computers at internet cafes; however, they are not the only users. A lot of genuine, honest people such as students and teachers, also use these resources. By breaking them, you are not only depriving them of use, but also placing a cost burden on the cafe owner, who is in virtually all cases an innocent trying to earn a living (or is under threat from the scammer gangs).

In addition, and probably just as importantly, is that by deliberately sending a malicious script, you are breaking the law. Since I assume by 'in your haste' that you sent it from your own email account, then this can be traceable back to you personally, and you could be feeling the long arm of the law on your shoulder. Police will prosecute acts of malicious damage to computers.

What you have done is commonly called "scambaiting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scam_baiting)" - there are many communities on the internet that deal with this special interest (such as Scambaits (http://www.scambaits.com), theScamBaiter (http://thescambaiter.com) and the 419eater (http://www.419eater.com)) where it is done safely.

We at FraudWatchers do not and cannot discuss scambaiting methods, tactics or results.

[FW Admin]

moved lottery post to new thread here: http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=15770