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Rob
24 February 2007, 11:11
Sadly, many news snippets and opinions (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4853938.stm) appear very one-sided in the media, directed only towards the victims, resulting for example to prejudices not only in the ordinary citizens mind but also in the responsible law enforcement agencies and government departments. The Scammers are often understood as poor, hungry, decent people that have no other chance to make a living. In fact, these people are criminals without any morals, plain and simple. The more vulnerable a victim is, the more eager the scammer is to exploit these vulnerabilities in order to extract the most money. The scammers will "milk" a victim dry, they'll try to get the last penny out of the victim, even if the victim struggles to survive .

This can be seen in the following two emails that were forwarded to me, the first is from a (prospective) victim and the second the response from a (Advance Fee Fraud) scammer.

Dear Frank,

I earn roughly $600.00 AUD a week, my rent is $245.00 a week. my wife's medication costs run somewhere between $170.00 and $285.00 per week. My wife does not work due to her illness - pancreatic cancer. She is on a special diet because of the type of pancreatic cancer she has. The shopping alone will sometimes eats up my income. We have no savings left because once every 8 weeks we have a radiation isotope flown to Australia from the USA on the say so of the Oncology Department at Melbourne's Royal Women's Hospital, and that usually costs us somewhere between $AUD 9,600.00 and $AUD13,500.00. She has had 15 of these. You do the math!!! ($AUD152,000.00 - $AUD194,500.00, in case you didn't want to do the math).

We have been married for 17 years and I love this woman with my heart. We want kids. Never gonna happen, Frank. Why? Because this cancer has ****ed up her hormones and damaged her ability to conceive, Frank. I don't want to loose her. I want to grow old with her.

You don't need to courier. Send to my Paypal account via
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

If this story is real and there is a cheque for $900,000 US Dollars, then please use the above method so I can help my wife get the treatment she needs and deserves. Don't **** me around, man. I'm going through enough as it is.

To prove my point look at the attached photos. These were taken last October when a spineless ****ed up surgeon decided he could not go ahead with the operation because her liver also had cancerous growths. The only place we have been promised a cure is Baltimore in the USA. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT KIND OF CASH!!!

We are on the verge of bankruptcy.

If there is no money and you are trying to defraud me, then think about this. This is bad KARMA for yourself. Find a way to redeem yourself, perhaps you would like to make a large donation somewhere. HINT, HINT - Above mentioned Paypal account.

What do you think? Could you arrange that?

I would love to live out the rest f my life with my wife. You now, grow old togther.

Actually, how would you fair in my situation. What if it was your wife???

Sleep on that for me will you?


Kind Regards,

xxxxxxxxxx

and the scammers reply:
Dear xxxxxxxxxx,
i have received your email and i am very very sorry for your wife problem ok.

i want to let you to know that you have noting to worry about any more because your God has answerd your paryer ok i belive that as soon as you receive this your bank draft check of $1900000 that you will take your wife to good Hospital ok. please my dear xxxxx i want to let you know that i was advice from my lawyer to dont send the volume of amount of 900000 usd through by Paypal account because of the contents of the amonut $900000 usd is not small money.

please my dear xxxx try to understand me very well towards this issue of delivery and you have to know that reson why i will send it through courier company is that if any thing happend on it they will pay for it ok.

and i have understand that you have big problem right now because of your wife but all i will promise to you is that i will make sure that you receive your check soonest with out any daleying so that you will see money to take good caer for your wife ok.

please as it is now out of the $300usd which courier company needed for urgent delivery of your check i want you to go ahead to send $100usd urgent to me with the infomation i give to you ok i will help you with $200usd to complete the money $200usd and registerd your check with them by tomorrow so that you will receive it on saturday moring to you address that is my promise to you ok please dont fail to send the $100usd to me today so that i will receive it by tomorrow morning and proceed to courier company and registerd it with them for urgent delivery to your address in AUSTRALIA. oh my dear i am very soory ok try to send the $100usd to me today so i will help you to complete the balance ok.

i am waiting to hear from you soonest. i will like to have your phone number so that i will call you immedaitely i send it ok or you can call me here is my phone number +229 93485611
Best Regards.
Mr Frank Wallace

Persephone
26 February 2007, 20:38
To add: interview with a criminal:

It was my personal desire to get rich that made me a
member.It is one way here that men use to get
rich,just like a drug dealer dose.

Really as I already to you have told, scammers work in groups, at these offices there is a strict schedule of work. So-called "workers" should come every day to strictly certain time. Behind each office there is a boss, it watches that that "workers" performed work and that that, each "worker" in day had certain quantity of "victims", that is incoming letters. Infringement of these rules (orders) can cause a number of penalties, basically it is physical frivolous punishments. If the worker works in one of "offices" that it cannot start to work at other office, and cannot as to work on itself, that is to be the boss, at own will. " The worker " with the good income has fast growth " career "," Workers " receive only small part of that they will be sent by "client" - a victim. For beginners of "workers" it is the order of 10-20 %, all depends on its boss. The basic part of money goes to the boss. In this business very much greater hierarchy, in its chapter cost only some person, they have huge profit on this business. They head bosses who watch offices. They are the most important in this business, they ancestors of this business In Russia, in particular in Yoshkar Ola. How to distinguish scammer from the simple gangster? First scammer does not steal in streets, is legislative enough citizen. It is always dressed on a fashion, and has a plenty of money. In the majority cases scammers personal cars, foreign manufacture have. Scammers they do not consist in street gangs, usual citizen.

Yeah, poor scammer :no:

now I have the monthly income about 5 thousand dollars. I have personal car Audi A6.

Anyhow, poor people starving and struggling to get something to eat would rather buy bread than waste their money on the internet.

ThatGrrl
8 March 2007, 06:43
Aboslutely disgusting. Even in the face of that poor guy trying and hoping to spend the rest of his life with his wife who is so ill, and with all the financial burden (not to even mention the emotional hell) that comes with that, these evil, pathetic, disgusting excuses for human beings will stop at nothing. It makes my blood boil. Actually, that's an understatement.