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arnuld
29 June 2009, 10:58
I came here after a long time. one of my earlier threads is here (http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=14766) . So I paid them $4500 ( 2,16,000 INR). They told me this at that time:

"We will process your H1 VISA and if you are able to get it, you will pay 20% of your salary for 18 months as our fee and your $4500 will be returned back to you in that same 18 months period. If your VISA application does not get approved, we will cut 25,000 INR from the amount you paid and will refund the rest."

Now, my VISA was not approved and hence they cut 25,000 rupees and refunded me the rest. If there were no friend of mine in USA, they may not have refunded my money. My friend actually paid them the money, he lives in US and hence may be they did not have any option other than to return the money. I think I learned 2 lessons:


I think they send emails to almost everyone in the India and lets say they get 1000 applications then they process some applications of say 3-10 applicants (just a wild guess) and get them the VISA and cut 25,000 rupees in the name of expenses from rest of the 990 applicants. That makes: 25,000 x 990 = 2,47,50,000 of rupees :o , That is a big money my friend.

If you want to have a VISA, go by real, legal rules. Don't ever try to use either illegal or legal but stupid means. Always respect the hard-earned money of yours and especially of your parents. USA is not heaven, its just a fallacy. In case of technical jobs (like Engineering /Software) If you can earn lots of money in US, then you can do the same here in India, though money will be less but there will not much difference in living a life. If you think US has big money, then you are neglecting the reality. Also think of the social environment where your kids will live. Marijuana and Guns are as easily available as mineral water in US, along with a broken society. I am not saying India is better but social structure is still better.

Nyla
30 June 2009, 04:05
Marijuana and Guns are as easily available as mineral water in US

Not quite. Last I checked, they don't stock guns or marijuana near the mineral water in my neighborhood. And last time I picked up a mineral water, there wasn't a permit or a background check involved.

Shuecraft
30 June 2009, 14:04
If you want to have a VISA, go by real, legal rules.

... A very general statement if I may say so. You say these words AFTER being duped yourself. So why did you not go through "real, legal means" to obtain a Visa? Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but you need to tell people the difference between the real and the fake.

If you can earn lots of money in US, then you can do the same here in India, though money will be less but there will not much difference in living a life. If you think US has big money, then you are neglecting the reality. Also think of the social environment where your kids will live. Marijuana and Guns are as easily available as mineral water in US, along with a broken society. I am not saying India is better but social structure is still better.

I object to that rubbish. Every nation on the planet has its own issues and its own successes, but attempting to spit venom at the USA becuase you were hurt by YOUR countrymen is the wrong stance to take. It is very easy to knock a country from the anonimity of an internet connection, but look at the reality. Indian's have been arrested in the United Kingdom for perpetrating the biggest illegal Immigration scandal ever. It would be so easy to hurl rocks at India, so I suggest you concentrate on exposing criminals than attempting to engage an anti-fraud forum in political (and useless) debate. If you dislike the USA so much, then don't go there! ;)

Nyla
4 July 2009, 05:35
.Every nation on the planet has its own issues and its own successes, but attempting to spit venom at the USA becuase you were hurt by YOUR countrymen is the wrong stance to take.

I'll point out that Optima Resources at least claimed to have an office located in New Jersey and was once a member of the New Jersey Better Business Bureau. As with most internet-based fraud, it's possible the scammers could actually be located just about anywhere and could be of any or many nationalities.

Let's all stick to discussion about Optima and H1B visas and visa fraud for the rest of the thread. No reason to go bashing any countries, there are plenty of scammers to bash.

arnuld
21 July 2009, 06:36
I'll point out that Optima Resources at least claimed to have an office located in New Jersey and was once a member of the New Jersey Better Business Bureau.


Yes, they do have an office, this is where my friend (in USA) met them. I don't get the the 2nd sentence of yours "was once a member of BBB". You say that they are no longer on the list of BBB ?

Shuecraft
21 July 2009, 12:58
You say that they are no longer on the list of BBB ?

This is correct Arnuld. See this posting made in 2008 : Optima Resources - BBB Accreditation (http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=14768). However, as at today the BBB states that : "This business is not a BBB Accredited Business." and that "BBB Accreditation expired on 06/05/2009", also they have a rating of "B". [link (http://www.bbb.org/new-jersey/business-reviews/computers-software-and-services/optima-resources-in-edison-nj-12003835)]

poirot
23 July 2009, 21:55
Getting BBB accreditation was likely done in order gain some legitimacy. However, in order to keep the accreditation, they had to respond to complaints, and I am aware of at least one India national who managed to get a refund after many months of responding to various excuses and false statements (check lost in the mail etc..,) from Optima who consistently responded late to requests from the BBB who acted as a mediator.
http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/showthread.php?p=67800
http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22594

It appears that the BBB accreditation just wasn't worth it for Optima if they could be force to refund their victims in order to maintain it.