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Fallen39
8 June 2006, 10:47
Hey there everyone..i came across this site when i was trying to find out something about this company called DropNGain International in NY. I'm offered a job by them and i don't know if they are real or just a scam. Hope some could help me out here. And below is the copy of the agreement/job details from them. Hope someone can help me out here. Thanks.


TRIAL PERIOD


This outline specifies:


PURPOSE


- The considerations surrounding an employee's trial period.


- The supervisor's responsibility to provide guidance and assess employees' performance and conduct during the period.


- The criteria for termination of probationary or trial employees.


- The reporting procedures: Trial Period Report



The trial period is the final, most policy significant step in the hiring process for new employees. It is the policy of the company to use the trial period as an opportunity to train new employees in job responsibilities; observe on-the-job conduct and performance to determine suitability; retain employees whose performance and conduct is fully acceptable; separate, without undue formality, those employees whose performance or conduct is deficient after the trial period; document the Company's recommendation for retention or separation on the Trial Period Form.


Trial periods are periods of time during which employees' conduct and performance is evaluated. They serve as an opportunity for new employees to prove fitness for the job and for the Company to evaluate employees' suitability for the position.


It is the responsibility of supervisors to ensure that employees have every reasonable opportunity to achieve success on the job. Specifically, supervisors should:


A. Notify employees of the probationary/trial period requirements during the first week of employment.


B. Inform employees of job expectations in both performance and conduct. Employees must be provided performance standards, information on working policies and procedures, and guidelines on employee responsibilities and conduct. Performance standards should be discussed with employees to ensure that they understand the duties,

responsibilities, and expectations associated with the job.


C. Counsel and provide feedback concerning performance and conduct to employees on a regular basis. It is crucial that employees

know how and where they are or are not meeting expectations. If a performance or conduct problem becomes apparent, supervisors should provide training or assistance to remedy the situation, as appropriate.


D. Gather documentation throughout employees' trial periods reflecting both good and bad performance and conduct. Document offers of assistance, guidance, and training which show the

supervisor provided the employee an opportunity to demonstrate

acceptable performance.



TERMINATION


Generally, a request for action to terminate should be supported by

documentation making it clear that the employee received a "fair trial". The documentation should specifically and in detail state:


1. How the employee was made aware of the performance/conduct expectations in question;

2. Guidance and training given to the employee;


3. Counseling given to the employee regarding specific conduct and/or performance deficiencies;


4. Opportunities for improvement given to the employee;


5. Details regarding the performance/conduct deficiencies.



REPORTING PROCEDURES

Trial Period Report



I. General


Trial Period Form is used to document new employees' performance and conduct and the Company's recommendation for retention or separation. It is important to recognize that any separation action is not dependent upon the completion of the form Requests to separate employees may be made at any point in the trial period. The trial period will be for one month starting from the commencement date.


II. Responsibilities


A. The supervisor will, no earlier than the 2nd week but no later than the 3rd of the trial period, complete the Trial Period Form (evaluation) and forward it to the reviewing official. Once the reviewing official has signed the form, the rating supervisor will:


1. If the report is satisfactory, discuss it with the employee and forward it to the appropriate custodian of the Employee Performance File (EPF).


2. If the report recommends separation of the employee, contact the Personnel Division, for further guidance.


3. Continue to observe the employee's performance and report any significant change which would affect the appraisal or the recommendation for retention or separation to Personnel Division before the end of the trial period.


B. The reviewing official (usually the employee's second-level supervisor) will review the supervisor's evaluation and recommendation, make any additional comments, resolve any difference of opinion with the supervisor, sign the report, and return it to the rating supervisor.


C. The EPF custodian will file the original form and any supporting documents in the EPF. Also, the custodian will distribute the second copy of the form to the employee.




The Commencement Date:______________________________ __________



The employee, __________________________________ , acknowledged the Trial

First and Last name of Employee



Period Outline and signed on the _____ day of ________, 2006.

Employee's Signature date month







Drop & Gain Int


Detailed Job Description – Administrative/Sales Support



The primary goal of the administrative assistant / sales support representative is to provide our clients with convenient payment options thus contribute to the sales force and add convenience to our cost-effective service dedicated to individuals, businesses, and organizations worldwide.


You will be assisting our clients within Australia and New Zealand, the assistance to be provided will include: payment collections and currency conversions.


Your duties will include:


- Collecting Local Payments


When a buyer in Australia or New Zealand decides to purchase an item through an online auction from our sellers he has the following payment options: paypal, international wire transfer, international check, or local wire transfer. The quickest option of these is local wire transferring. Local wire transferring is the option that the sales support representative will provide to the clients.


- Currency Conversions


Another factor for the preference of local wire transferring is that the client can transfer funds in local currency. All payments that you will receive will be in local currency. When forwarding, you will forward all payments in USD.


- Managing Data


Along with the payments received from buyers you will be receiving details of these sales. These details will include items sold, price, and buyer's information.


- Forwarding of the Payments


Once you receive each payment you will be keeping 5% as commission and forwarding the rest to either the seller or the client, whose information will be provided. Seller being a person who was in charge of selling this item. Client being a person who dropped off the item for sale. It is crucial to complete forwarding of the payments in a time efficient manner.


- Correspondence


You will be submitting brief reports, weekly reports, and monthly reports. Weekly and monthly reports are to be done in Excel format.


Here is an example of a brief report:

Date: Feb 2, '06

Buyer: Jane N. Smith

Item:HP ProCurve

Price: $2,921.27

Commission 5%: 146$

Fees: 142$

Total Forwarded: 2633.27AUD / 1931.29 USD

Forwarded to: Margo Reins, Barcelona, Spain

Reference Numbers: 2349783981



- Fees, and Transferring Procedures


All fees are covered by the company. The fees for transferring are simply deducted from the payment received. No client will contact you during initial stage of the trial period. After two weeks of the trial period you will begin to have contact with the buyers via email in regards to collection of the payments. For the first two weeks you will simply receive all of the transferring details, and payments, along with step by step guidance from your supervisor. You will be forwarding the received payments through western union transferring agents, they are located at the post offices; this allows instant currency conversions and instant payment transferring.



Additional Information


Salary


During the trial period, you will be paid bi-weekly, 500AUD, that's 1,000AUD per month, plus 5% commission from every payment received and forwarded. The salary will be sent in the form of wire transfer directly to your account. After the trial period your base pay salary will go up to 1,500AUD per month, plus 5% commission.



Taxes


You will receive a monthly invoice stating your total income. All applicable taxes are covered by the company.



Payments


In order to receive payments from clients and your salary please provide with account information:



Account Holder's Name:

Name of the Bank:

Account Information:




The Company will not reveal your details; and will only remit agreed funds to the account at the times and dates specified prior each transaction. The Employee will not attempt to use any of the Company funds - other than those that are deposited in relation to the employment as agreed remuneration, and commissions.


Commencement Date:


The employee, , acknowledged the Detailed Job Description

Name and Last Name of Employee



and signed on this day of ___________, 2006.

Employee's Signature date month




Is this a scam? Or could it be real? Hope to get some help soon. Thanks. :confused: :idea:

Daneel
8 June 2006, 14:42
Hi :)


Yep, it's what we call a representative scam, you can read more about it here (http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=257).

In this case, it seems they want you to launder money for them that they have obtained through some other type of internet fraud. So when the police come looking for that money, they will find you.

No real company would need anyone to transfer funds for them in this manner. The reason they want the money sent on to them by Western Union is because it is untraceable. It's the favorite payment method of scammers everywhere.

breccia
8 June 2006, 16:44
Hi Fallen39,

Welcome to Fraudwatchers! :)

Daneel has hit the nail right on the head with his explanation. This is a type of "representative" scam and is of the type commonly sent out by Eastern European scammers. You can read more details about it in an excellent description on Joe Wein's website:

How the scam works (http://www.joewein.net/fraud/spam-payment-jobs.htm#intro)


- Collecting Local Payments


When a buyer in Australia or New Zealand decides to purchase an item through an online auction from our sellers he has the following payment options: paypal, international wire transfer, international check, or local wire transfer. The quickest option of these is local wire transferring. Local wire transferring is the option that the sales support representative will provide to the clients.


Translation:

The scammers have phished (http://fraudwatchers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=254):

* paypal account logins;
* bank account logins;

from various people in Australia & New Zealand. They need a way to get their hands on the money in those bank accounts (or via those paypal accounts) without getting themselves arrested, so they are looking for victims to accept money transfers from phished (http://fraudwatchers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=254) VICTIM'S accounts.


- Forwarding of the Payments


Once you receive each payment you will be keeping 5% as commission and forwarding the rest to either the seller or the client, whose information will be provided. Seller being a person who was in charge of selling this item. Client being a person who dropped off the item for sale. It is crucial to complete forwarding of the payments in a time efficient manner.

Translation:

When you receive the money that the scammers have wired into your account from the bank account of an innocent person, they want you to withdraw that money as cash and send it to them via a 100% anonymous money transfer service. The 5% they are promising means little, because when the police come looking for you, they will want to know what happened to the other 95% of the funds.

As I said initially, the people you are dealing with are Eastern European criminals, and these people are quite dangerous, so don't mess with them. If you haven't already done so, cease communicating with them and save yourself a world of trouble.

Fallen39
9 June 2006, 03:43
Thank you. Yep i found out about the scam on that website too. And wanted to make sure that i don't get caught in a scam i decided to ask for second opinion and thank god i ound fraudwatchers ;) Thanks for the advise. And i haven't send out any bank information yet so i'm still safe. Thanks for helping out. Cheers

Unregistered
17 June 2006, 02:17
I also, recieved the same e-mail from dropngain.com, but felt that it was legitimate. I did give out my bank information - but it was an account that I never use... it sits empty and my actual checking & savings accounts are at an entirely different bank. Today I recieved a transfer of over $5,600.00 and was told to keep the 5% and send the remaining funds split equally to 2 people in Russia via Western Union. Once the money was actually in my account I felt that I had made a mistake and needed to let someone what was going on. I called my bank and explained everything to them. They told me that they would freeze the account, so their security dept. could look into it. So now I have this money (I don't know who's it really is) and it is sitting in my account. The company is e-mailing me asking me what the Western Union confirmation number is. The bank told me to just ignore any contact the company tries to make and to forward them all my e-mails. I am scared, because I don't know if someone is going to try to get this money back or what...all the information they have of mine is my e-mail, home phone & P.O. Box though. Any thoughts? Help!

Saturn Girl
17 June 2006, 03:02
So far what you have done is good. Letting the bank know what was happening was the first step. They can always reverse the wire transfer and send it back to where it cam from.
I don't know what phone number they have, but if you can block their calls that will relieve you of that burden. If necessary, you could change your number.
with the emails, you can ignore them. Block the sender or bounce them back.
if you have any more question, PM someone here.

breccia
17 June 2006, 10:22
Hello Unregistered, and welcome to Fraudwatchers.

Regarding what is currently happening to you, the most important thing to do is:

Listen to your bank.

Their advice is spot-on. Cease all correspondence with the scammers, and let your bank investigate what has happened. If they have any doubts about your part in this scheme, please give them a link to this thread here on fraudwatchers. Also, give them all copies of any correspondence the scammers have sent to you, and co-operate 100% with your bank.

The money that has been transferred into your account WILL be the proceeds of a crime, and as Miyu has rightly pointed out, your bank will be able to reverse the transaction so that the money is returned to its rightful owners. The important thing is to make sure that anyone investigating this email crime understands that you were tricked into thinking that this was a legitimate job opportunity, and the emails that the scammers have sent to you will prove this.

You can expect that the scammers will be pressuring you now to withdraw and send the money via Western Union. They will ring you constantly if they have your phone number, and send you numerous emails demanding the money. Do NOT comply with them. Do as your bank said: ignore them.

Don't even read any emails they send you. I would suggest that you simply transfer any emails they send you now into a new folder in your email program without even reading them. This way, if the bank later requests ALL copies of any emails, you will still have a record to show them. If the scammers call you, tell them your bank froze your account and are investigating you for fraud, and then hang up (over and over again if necessary). This should be enough to get rid of them.

Unregistered
21 June 2006, 16:22
My bank was contacted by the person who transferred me the money. Apparently he is an innocent person too. He thought that he was buying a Rolex watch from EBay and my account was the one the seller gave him to transfer the money to. I had forwarded all my e-mails from this "company" and the phone number from my caller I.D. to the bank. I had been ignoring the people e-mailing & calling me and they haven't contacted me now in about 48 hours. My bank got my approval to send the funds back to where they came from. Hopefully these scammers will realize that we caught on to them and not try to contact either of us again.

breccia
21 June 2006, 18:10
Hi again unregistered. I am so glad that everything is working out, and that the person whose money was transferred into your account has gotten his money back. A happy ending! :clap:

Even if the scammers do realize that you guys caught on, just keep on ignoring them. They are criminals, and it's best to avoid dealing with them in any way.

As an aside, do you happen to know if the Ebay seller who was selling those non-existant Rolexes was reported to ebay and suspended? If he hasn't yet been suspended by ebay, it might be a good idea to report that ID.

But I am so relieved to hear that the bank has managed to sort this out. :)

Daniel
29 October 2006, 06:51
Hello all.

I believe these people are 'at it again'.

I received the same job proposal... however from a company by the name of 'Drop 'n Sell'.

I have unfortunately sent them my resume... with contact details:
Name
Address
Phone No
DOB

I have told them i am not interested in the job anymore...

Should i be doing anything else... To ensure my details are not leaked or identity stolen?

Thanks,

Dan.

Relieved!! :)
6 November 2006, 16:10
Drop 'n Sell

They are at it again!!

Thank you fraudwatchers and those of you who have written for info on this company!!

I recieved an identicle job offer to you guys, they contacted me through www.totaljobs.com where i posted my C.V. so they have all my details except my bank details is this anything a should be wary or worried about?

It was some family members of mine who are very wise and decided to have a look for reviews on this company when we came across this website!! If we had not had a look I hate to think what would have happened!!

Nyla
7 November 2006, 03:58
As you're apparently in the UK, where identity theft is rarer and more difficult, unless the scammers have something sensitive such as your social security number (or similar identifying number) or your bank account information, you are likely safe. To be on the extra-safe side, you may wish to warn former employers listed on your CV that scammers have your information, and they should clear releasing any information on you with you personally. No just handing over personal information without asking you first.

It's also good prevention to regularly order and review your credit report.

Unregistered
7 November 2006, 12:26
I to was contacted by the above mentioned company. What should I do

Nyla
8 November 2006, 19:04
If you were just contacted and didn't reply, simply delete the email and don't respond.

If you received a forged check in the mail, you need to report that to and turn it in to the police and file a report with your local post office.

If you gave them personal information, such as bank account numbers, you should immediately contact your bank and have them close the account and issue a new one.

Unregistered- Emma
2 May 2009, 11:02
hi there people, so glad I found this thread!!!
I suppose the saying if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.... is very true in this case at least.
I received the exact same email and atttachment from Drop and sell, I was not a happy girl when I found out, I have given all the details and email attachements etc to the police this morning and also to totaljobs where they found me.
I realise the police may be able to do sod all about it, but I will have done my best.
tra la !
its just so disheartening! I have been looking for work for a while. and I have been given so many scams to apply for, its just awful and really beginning to get to me.
:(
xxx

Unregistered- Dave
7 October 2009, 03:35
Cheers guys,

thought this had 2 be 2 good 2 be true, but had 2 double check!

Just as a heads up they same scam is now using the name Drop N Sale, cheeky *******s!

Lisa Stone <lisa.stone@dns-job.com> is the apparent recruiter

thanks again


(P.S. dns-jobs is about as real as a company calling itself ELFjobs.com recruiting for seasonal toy making jobs in Lapland)