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Unregistered
10 May 2006, 16:04
Hi There All.
I Started Chatting To A Guy On Msn He Told Me He Can Get The Sony Ericsson p990 For $200 So I Sent Him It Through Western Union This Was On The 5/5/06 He Said It Takes 48hrs Delivery It Is Now The 10/05/06 And i Have Still Received Nothing I Am Still Chatting To Him On MSN To See What He Says I Will Keep You All Posted.
Thanks,
This type of fraud is very common on trade sites like alibaba.com, sometimes these scammers also have their own websites. They usually "trade" in mobiles and other electronics and high-tech gadgets.
Using Western Union allows them to remain relatively anonymous. That's why it's the favorite payment method of fraudsters everywhere.
Sorry to hear about it :( If you post all his details here, others may at least be able to find out he's a fraudster when they search his name.
vijithk
11 March 2009, 13:30
I had got this link from the google when i was searcing for iphone.I wanted to purchse it on line.And here is this guy who calls himself Richard Renorld who told me that i could get Iphone 8Gb for USD280 and with shipping cost of extra 50USD so total of 330USD.He also said that i will be getting ipod 30Gb free with it.He had his mobile number posted to his mail to me 00447024076296.I called to his mobile and he answerd that i could have the product.They wanted the money by Wester union.So i told him that i will send him 50% first and the rest after he gives me the tracking number of the shipment.So yesterday i did a payment of 165 USD.And here he is today telling me that the shipment has been done for 4iphone since then only i would be getting a free ipod.So now the offer is for 4 iphone and not 1.So i will have to buy a min of 4 iphone.I told him that i made it clear to him in my first email itself.He now tells me that it was a mistake and his manager has scolded him and that I can just pay rest of 165 usd and then send them back the rest of the phones which he has already shipped out in my address.He has given me this shipping company details .........http://www.shipit.zxq.net, together with the airway bill copy.When i checked it out with the tracking number i saw that it was already on the way here to my place.The site had my delivery address in it.But the funny part is that this shipping company has got no customer care contact details and doesnt seem to be on the google search category..I mean how does these guys do it.I think i am in Sh@#.I am not going to do the rest of the payment unless i get the product here,if what he says about the items already on the way to me is true.Did this happen to anybody else other than me??????????
You're being scammed.
A +4470 number is not a mobile, it's a personal forwarding number. Scammers love them. They can get them for free, you pay through the nose to call them, and it looks like they're in the UK when they're probably sitting on a different continent, using an anonymous prepaid mobile.
That's a completely unrealistic price for an unlocked iPhone. Throwing in an iPod for "free" would essentially be selling you the iPhone for little more than it costs, subsidized, from AT&T with a two year service agreement. Legitimate businesses, particularly in the UK or US, should offer safer payment options than Western Union, which are essentially untraceable cash transactions and are NOT designed for sending money to strangers or business transactions. It's essentially the same as throwing money on the ground in an alley and leaving it unattended.
The shipping website is a fake. Put zxq.net in your browser's address bar and see where it redirects. You'll end up at http://www.zymic.com/free-web-hosting/ where they offer free webhosting. No real international shipping company would use free hosting for their business site.
I'm sorry, but the money is gone. All you can do is minimize your losses by not sending more.
The good news is that you can annoy the scammers by having their fake shipping site shut down. Forward the emails referring to the shipping site to zymicabuse [at] googlemail [dot] com and explain that you were scammed by someone using that site. You should hear back from them very soon that the site has beens hut down.
chesterking
28 March 2009, 16:58
I regret that I'm not reading this before I send the money.
I've sent 162 pounds through western union.
and I'd like to know, how is it going with you?
and damn they also did the same as what the did to vijithk.
but this time, I've sent the full amount, and it was the biggest mistake in my life.
And I pretend to email them with my different account saying that I can buy only 1 phone, in fact for me, they say that I can't buy only 1 phone, because the manager blah blah blah......
I've reported this case to police, and I really hope that I can get my money back, and I can kick them , and perhaps kill them for being very mean!
They'd better die and burnt!
I attached their details here:
Company name:HARY LTD
Address:21 DEVERILL ROAD TRADING ESTATE
DEVERILL ROAD, SUTTON VENY
WARMINSTER
WILTSHIRE
BA12 7BZ
Sales Rep mobile +447024076296
NEVER EVER believe some one who had a very weird voice who claimed himself as a british!
I know he is asian, and he is disgusting!
Could anyone please tell me that are you guys already received the items?
In my case, police will handle it.
I've reported this case to police, and I really hope that I can get my money back
Sorry, but no. On all counts. Your chances of getting hit by a falling piano are probably better than getting your money back. Western Union is extremely anonymous and it's a cash transaction. And chances are the recipient was actually in a jurisdiction where the police wouldn't care even if you could hand over a detailed map to his house.
That +4470 number could be forwarded anywhere in the world, probably to a prepaid, anonymous mobile on another continent. It's a personal forwarding number. It also looks as though the address is a fake mishmash of two real addresses on this page.
http://www.payrollandbookkeeping.com/monkton_deverill
chesterking
30 March 2009, 06:07
But at least, can't police find these scammers rather than letting them free and do more scams?
if it is impossible to return the money, at least the scammers could be arrested.
Daneel
30 March 2009, 12:58
I don't think it's completely impossible if Interpol already has information on the scammer, and they know of a large number of victims that have lost large amounts of money, say a few hundred thousand USD. Otherwise, international investigations do not happen. But there are thousands of these scammers and they change names on a daily basis, so the chances are never good.
If you want to help prevent these kinds of scams, try to spread the word about them. Learn as much as you can and talk to family, friends and media. Educating people is really the only way to stop them.
Also, Interpol does not, in and of itself, have any police powers. They have no jurisdiction. They merely, as I understand it, coordinate efforts between law enforcement in different countries. They can press a foreign police department to investigate, but they can't FORCE them to. If they had over the information and the local police dump it in the trash or fail to follow up on it properly, you're still out of luck.
Scammers aren't often stupid about revealing their real identities. They use free, anonymous emails, other free web services that they can register for with fake details, anonymous prepaid cells, personal forwarding numbers and fake names and addresses. IP addresses aren't like street addresses. They aren't always static, and lots of scammers use public web cafes that cater to dozens or hundreds of other scammers. Meeting the burden of proof to even attempt an arrest, much less prosecute an online scammer, can be extraordinarily difficult at best, impossible at worst.
Police forces have to make the best use of their limited resources. As Daneel pointed out, it's rarely a wise decision to waste tens of thousands of dollars in resources for a loss of a few hundred dollars in an investigation that is likely going to lead nowhere or to a jurisdiction where there is no cooperation.
The good people
30 April 2009, 17:27
They are fraud. This is how they write letter as follows:
Here is the tracking number of your items:
xxxxxxxx
visit http://www.shipit.zxq.net to track your items.
We ship out the following items to you.
LG KF900 Prada II Unlocked Mobile phone x 2 units
LG GC900 Viewty Smartphone Unlocked Mobile Phone x 1 unit cost......$499USD
iPod 80GB Video x 1 unit free gift.
We have to add the LG GC900 Viewty Smartphone Unlocked Mobile Phone so we can pay some charges here (TAX, VAT and SHIPPING), you can pay $300USD for the LG GC900 Viewty Smartphone Unlocked Mobile Phone.
Kindly confirmed the shipping so we can send to you our payment details to deposit the $300USD.
we await your response soon.
Thanks,
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i had samething situation about iphone scam
seller send me list and i choose iphone so i send money by western union
and he asked me pay more -_- because he already send 10 iphone so i didnt send it and then he told me when i got the package 10 iphone i have to return 9 iphone so i have to send 200 usd more for demorage fee, wtf means demorage i try to find in internet does not saying. anyway i send 200 usd and he now told me send more money for lincese fee, that i need lincese for import and export -_-,,, so i ****ed and i get scams but some how i have money receiver passport number, full name, home address, day of birth can i get refund or can i ****ed his life? does some one can help me please, i try to call uk police but it does not work because i live in mexico, and i cant call to uk police, how do i have to solve this problem.
Dodobird
22 May 2009, 12:49
Hello Jay,
I'm very sorry that you lost this money.
Demorage is a word that doesn't exist in the English language, this is why you cannot find it.
Unfortunately, nothing can be done about your lost money. Sending via Western Union is just like sending cash, or giving cash money to someone; once it's given, nothing can be done.
You can report the scam to your local police section; it's always good for them to know about these things, although I don't believe Mexico has an anti-fraud force yet.
The passport information you were given by the scammer is most probably fake or stolen. Read what Nyla has written about scammers using fake identities 3 posts above yours;
Nyla
Scammers aren't often stupid about revealing their real identities. They use free, anonymous emails, other free web services that they can register for with fake details, anonymous prepaid cells, personal forwarding numbers and fake names and addresses. IP addresses aren't like street addresses. They aren't always static, and lots of scammers use public web cafes that cater to dozens or hundreds of other scammers. Meeting the burden of proof to even attempt an arrest, much less prosecute an online scammer, can be extraordinarily difficult at best, impossible at worst.
If you do feel like doing a good deed in case the passport was stolen from another scam victim, you can contact the British Embassy in Mexico city to report it. Although they will not be able to give you the information (confidentiality), they have the means to investigate it. Here is the link to their webpage, they even have an email address, so you probably won't have to go there;
http://ukinmexico.fco.gov.uk/en/
Again, I'm very sorry about your loss. But as most of the support team has said many times; if something looks too good to be true, it's most probably "too good to be true". Good luck!
hello is it MBP WIRELESS INC also is scam?
i try to buy new iphone i mean i like to buy new one, but there are many scam in internet and now i dont know who and how i have to tust them, MPB company receive money by USA bank account, i also have usa account, so i think is not the scam but someone told me also is scam MBP Wireless, so can you guys can help me, MBP told me they have new owner, so i dont know how trust them.
Fiideell
20 June 2009, 21:12
Hello all....
It seems I've been scammed too:cry:
Wanted to buy iPhone. Found this adress
http://www.comtechembeddedcommunications.page.tl/
email: nikkey.bee2009@gmail.com
I paid in advance via Western Union to this person:
Receivers Name: Kamar Anderson
City: Uxbridge
State: London
Country: United Kingdom
Amt: Us$300 Dollars
Then he wrote me the item was shipped http://www.shipit.zxq.net/
Later he wrote he accidently sent 10 iphones instead of 1 and now he wants me to pay 4 more phones and then I would get 5 phones for free.
Something I can do?:(
margjie
20 June 2009, 21:23
hi,im new to the thread and i dont know how to start a thread or a forum.
and i just wanna ask how to do that in fraudwatcher.com.
by the way,im planning to buy to the ebay shop called watches-bay but need to make sure if it is authentic product they are selling.please can members advice me on this issue.
Hi There All.
I Started Chatting To A Guy On Msn He Told Me He Can Get The Sony Ericsson p990 For $200 So I Sent Him It Through Western Union This Was On The 5/5/06 He Said It Takes 48hrs Delivery It Is Now The 10/05/06 And i Have Still Received Nothing I Am Still Chatting To Him On MSN To See What He Says I Will Keep You All Posted.
Thanks,
Something I can do?:(
Chalk it up as an expensive lesson and warn others.
Western Union is cash, essentially. It has no more consumer protection than blindfolding yourself and dropping a bag full of money in an alleyway for a stranger.
So, I'm afraid the money is gone.
You could also try emailing support for the free webhost the scammer is using, see http://page.own-free-website.com/impressum.php#support , but you're not really hurting the scammer much in the long run. They'll just pick up and find a new free webhost and start again. It would probably be mostly a minor annoyance and maybe take him/her out of the scamming business for a few days while they set up again.
hi,im new to the thread and i dont know how to start a thread or a forum.
and i just wanna ask how to do that in fraudwatcher.org.
by the way,im planning to buy to the ebay shop called watches-bay but need to make sure if it is authentic product they are selling.please can members advice me on this issue.
I would suggest you start with our FAQ.
As for watches-bay, you might want to think beyond just the authenticity issue. Check out their page on Ebay.
http://members.ebay.com.sg/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=watches-bay#NEGATIVE_FEEDBACKS
Notice anything a little odd? Like how they make a very, very big issue of "give us a chance to fix it before you leave negative feedback"? That indicates to me that they have some delivery problems. Or at least had a small spate of them recently (late May, early June).
I also tried to do some price comparisons on the Citizen watches. The problem is, I've tried searching for numerous models the Ebay seller has listed on the official Citizen site. I've not been able to find a single matching model name or model number.
They currently claim to be selling a
Citizen Mens PROMASTER Aqualand Diver Watch JP1060-52L
While I can find an Aqualand watch on the official Citizen site, there is no "Promaster Aqualand", and none of the Aqualand watches have that model number. And all seven of the watches I found are a good $300 more than the Buy it Now price, some more like $400 more. I suppose it's possible they're selling older models that were purchased as overstocks or something similar, but they don't make that clear if they do.
They also have what I see as an odd excuse for not shipping with an original box.
http://www.pm-bay.com/watches-bay/aNobox.htm
On the other hand, they do have overwhelmingly positive feedback, and quite a lot of it, so I suppose they must not be non-delivery scammers. That doesn't mean the watches they're selling are automatically authentic, though.
If you're really concerned about authenticity and making sure you do get a manufacturer's warranty, I would suggest picking out the model and brand you want, then emailing the watch manufacturer to see if they can offer any advice on whether the watch is simply a copy or if the seller is an authorized reseller. With watches that expensive, they're typically pretty helpful about such things.
Kenny Ng
27 June 2009, 08:22
Hello all....
It seems I've been scammed too:cry:
Wanted to buy iPhone. Found this adress
http://www.comtechembeddedcommunications.page.tl/
email: nikkey.bee2009@gmail.com
I paid in advance via Western Union to this person:
Receivers Name: Kamar Anderson
City: Uxbridge
State: London
Country: United Kingdom
Amt: Us$300 Dollars
Then he wrote me the item was shipped http://www.shipit.zxq.net/
Later he wrote he accidently sent 10 iphones instead of 1 and now he wants me to pay 4 more phones and then I would get 5 phones for free.
Something I can do?:(
I got the same case too, I was purchasing 1 Tokina Lens and he told me the shipping need at least 20kg, so he added 7 lenses and asked me to pay for another 4 lenses price! The shipping code same URL as your but I can't access it. The only different is receivers name, his name is Vladimir Kozak. Location same!
I believe it operated in a group.
ngkhoong
27 June 2009, 08:49
Hello all....
It seems I've been scammed too:cry:
Wanted to buy iPhone. Found this adress
http://www.comtechembeddedcommunications.page.tl/
email: nikkey.bee2009@gmail.com
I paid in advance via Western Union to this person:
Receivers Name: Kamar Anderson
City: Uxbridge
State: London
Country: United Kingdom
Amt: Us$300 Dollars
Then he wrote me the item was shipped http://www.shipit.zxq.net/
Later he wrote he accidently sent 10 iphones instead of 1 and now he wants me to pay 4 more phones and then I would get 5 phones for free.
Something I can do?:(
Same thing happened to me, I purchased only 1 Tokina lens, and now due to the shipping service need at least 20kg, he added 7 lenses and asked me to pay for other 4 lenses price! I think it's from same group/person, his name is Vladimir Kozak, the other info exactly the same! I can't even access the shipping tracking website, then I only knew it's a fraud!
Too bad I never check it before I proceed with it. We are the same victims. Damn it!
ID7000
28 June 2009, 08:04
So sad.. Lost USD500 here... :cry:
The same tactic, but i think it is the different person, but maybe the same group...
I am thinking they are using a fake ID/passport to collect the funds.. the fellow asked me to make the payment to one of my relative in UK and just change the name to his name after I have collected the goods..
I am too confident that seems the beneficiary name is not the supplier's name, he will not get the money.. So i just send the fund through Western Union and email him the scan copy of the receipt blindly,, and the money just being picked up after a few hours.. so sad.. then I just knew that I have been scammed...!! http://www.westernunion.com.my/en/pdf/EN_BuyerBeware.pdf
Really sad and hate myself, their address and postal code are funny but i just didn't notice that coz too confidence on myself....
I pretend to be innocent and ask the person for the tracking number, he said that his staff has done a mistake and sent out 250 units.. totally USD15000.. and ask me how much can i afford... so baddd..
I keep telling him that i do not have any money left, and i already knew that he is a scammer, pls just stop doing things like this... He keep saying he is not a scammer and told me that actually he has sent out 25 units, not 250 units, and ask me again how much can i afford to pay for the extra items he has sent out....
Once again i tell him that i really do not have any money left to send to him, and do you know what he say??? He ask me to work for him to cover the extra items he sent out.. want me to tell him the websites in Asia that he can publish his products.....!!! SO BAD!!!
I really hope this person will regret someday.. really hope so...
By the way, I got part of him information, hope this is useful:
Email: electronicscomfirm@googlemail.com
Email: electronicscomfirm@gmail.com
Email: mobile_supply@live.com
MSN: newworldbiz@hotmail.com
Message IP Address:196.3.183.* (the email didn't show the full IP add)
Message Origin:Nigeria
The address he use: 626 Chiswick High Road Chiswick (just found out that this is one of the hotel's name in UK, google search yourself)
Western Union said they have made the payment according to their policy term and can't do anything else... i know the money has lost.. but can't do anything :cry:
I published this case to one of the advertisement and forum in Asia but both of them are being deleted... just found out this website today and hope this will aware more people from this kind of scammers....
p/s: forgive me if i have made some grammar mistakes.. my English grammar is not good..
ID7000
28 June 2009, 10:39
http://www.met.police.uk/reporting_crime/index.htm
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