PDA

View Full Version : I got scammed for 3k!!!!


tomek18eu
27 April 2008, 03:50
Hello guys, im new here. I would like to know what i can do to find the guy who scammed me.

Heres the story.

I saw an adv. on craigslist, it was a yamaha raptor 700 2007 for 2900$ and i belived it was a great deal so i emailed him. He sent me emails with pictures and said that hes selling it because hes going to Iraq. Then he told me to make the payment with moneygram which i did. I sent the pin to ebay email which came to me before with instructions on how to make the payment. I checked today and ebay says its a spoof. I never recieved the atv. Now i lost 2900$.

I need any help please. Is there anything i can do? This gave me so much pain and even made me think of suicide.

Heres the information on the thief.

David Holthaus
5503 Midland Road
Billings
Montana 59101
United States

How ever this came from the SPOOF ebay email and are the only ones i have.

and here are the information about the agent who handled the transaction.

eBay Agent Details


First Name: Anthony

Last Name: Lopez

Street: 2145 Hamilton Avenue

City: San Jose

State: California

Zip code: 95125

Country: United States







PLEASE HELP ME! I now really think of doing something to myself PLEASE HELP ME

FW Admin
27 April 2008, 10:41
Firstly, I'm sorry to hear that you were scammed for such a considerable amount of money. The two addresses given; the first is an industrial block in Billings, Montana, and the second is Ebay's own corporate address - both used falsely and, in relation to this, are most definitely not the real names or addresses of the scammers.

You must file a report with moneygram, and get them to investigate it; additionally, report this to your local police. Moneygram or Western Union cash transfers should never be used for these types of transactions, as it is the same as leaving a bag of cash in an alleyway - they are insecure and can be picked up anywhere, using fake ID.

I would strongly suggest that you speak to a counselor to give you the assistance you require.

kellyswhit
27 May 2008, 22:40
Don't forget!...It's just money if you have your health then count your blessings.

And you probably helped out many people who would have done this also.

And I am a firm believer "What goes around comes back around".

shannon
12 June 2008, 22:21
I was looking on Craig's List for a golf cart and ran across a deal that would have been incredible. I requested further information from the seller and this was his reply:

-------------- Original message --------------
From: Bryan Wellington <desert.king@msn.com>
Hey,
I am selling this golf cart because my unit will be sent back to Iraq and don't want it getting old in my backyard. The price is low because I need to sell it before June 30th. The cart is in great condition and runs great. It has 41 hours on it. It is still available for sale if interested, price as stated in the ad US $2800. The cart is in Billings, MT; in case it gets sold I will take care of shipping. Let me know if you are interested, email back.
More pictures available at:
http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?folder_id=2001915
Bryan

His second email looked like this:
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Bryan Wellington <desert.king@msn.com>

Hey,
It is a 48 volt cart. I will ship it with DAS. I think I can have it there in 5-7 working days. I will take care of the shipping charges as I told you in my first email. It will come with a clear title and reg. I am a member of the eBay buyer protection program and using this service you will get a 3 days testing period after delivery. During that 3 days testing period I will not be getting any money. I need to know if you are interested so I can ask eBay to send you the details on this deal. If interested please include in your next email your contact info for eBay (name, address and phone number), so we can get the ball rolling.
Bryan

He then sent me the following email:

eBay, Inc.
2145 Hamilton Avenue
San Jose, CA 95125
United States Invoice for June 12th, 2008

Sequential ID: 05-US037845770-25 IN



***This is an automatically generated email. Please do not reply.***



eBay Buyer Protection Program - Verified Member: Bryan Wellington


eBay confirms that you fully protected in the transaction with Bryan Wellington. The eBay Buyer Protection Program covers buyers who complete a transaction on an eBay company website (eBay, Kijiji, Craigslist) for the following types of deliberate and material misrepresentation by the seller:

-Paying for an item and never receiving it
-Sending a deposit for an item and never receiving it (restrictions apply to non-refundable deposits). Paying for and receiving an item:
-that was a stolen item at the time of the transaction;
-with an undisclosed or unknown lien against its title;
-or a make and/or model that is different than what was described in the seller's listing;
-without receiving the title for that item from the seller (restrictions apply);
-or whose title is subject to an undisclosed salvage, rebuilt, reconstructed, scrapped/destroyed, junk, lemon, or water damage title brand

The program covers the following types of fraud and material misrepresentation:
->First are the following instances of fraud only if they result in a devaluation of the item of at least 50% of the item's purchase price:
-Paying for and receiving an item with a model year that is different than the model year described in the seller's listing;
-Paying for and receiving an item with an odometer reading that is different than the odometer reading described in the seller's listing;
->Second, the Program also covers paying for and receiving an item with undisclosed engine, transmission, or body damage
The insurer of this transaction is eBay
Should you need a refund for this transaction, the insured amount will be taken from the seller's purchase protection account and sent to you. The refund is sent to your bank account, or by check or money order. The way you are refunded is at your choice. You have 30 days from the above verification date to request a refund. Refund requests are processed within 3 days

Sincerely,

eBay Customer Support (Trust and Safety Department)
ebay@customer-protection-support.com
Fax: 1-408-531-6060

Then the final email:
All you need to make the Money Gram money transfer are the details we sent you in your invoice.
Step by step instructions:

You need to locate the nearest Money Gram office in your area by clicking here .
Go to the nearest Money Gram office and simply fill out the required form and show the Agent clerk your identification card (current government-issued photo I.D. - one of the following):
Driver's license

State I.D.

Current passport or tourist card

Government I.D. with photograph



Give the Agent clerk your payment in cash or your credit/debit card with PIN (if accepted) and sign the receipt.
If you use your credit card, you may be charged an additional cash advance fee by your card issuer for this service. If you pay by credit card, your credit card company may charge a fee. If you use your debit card, your bank usually doesn't charge a fee. Please contact your credit card company or bank for details on their policies.

The total payment for your transaction is 2,800.00 USD.
Once payment is made please send us the details by fax at 001 (408) 531-6060 or by mail at ebay@customer-protection-support.com
Sincerely,

eBay Customer Support (Trust and Safety Department)
ebay@customer-protection-support.com
Fax: 1-408-531-6060

All of this to say that it is indeed a scam and please beware!

FW Admin
12 June 2008, 23:32
The domain WHOIS reports:

Domain: customer-protection-support.com
Created 02-apr-2008 Updated 02-apr-2008 Expires 02-apr-2010
Registrant:
Lloyd Penn

Registered through: Domains Priced Right
Domain Name: CUSTOMER-PROTECTION-SUPPORT.COM

Domain servers in listed order:
NS51.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS52.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
For Ebay? I don't think so... definitely a scammer trying to dupe unsuspecting victims.

This could be a very good case for reporting directly to ebay (abuse@ could be a good call) to report the domain and submitting or forwarding the email (as an attachment) to their abuse department. They will, I am sure, take adequate steps to get the domain suspended.

dwarasim
24 June 2008, 19:31
I'm currently talking to this scammer on a golf cart. I've received his Ebay Protection Plan and sent it to Ebay to investigate. This scammer is preying on Craiglist shoppers. As it is documented on Craiglist, you should inspect the vehicle before purchase and shop locally.

Redcliff92
6 May 2009, 04:57
In Re: to "Shannon", "Tomek18eu"--and any other victims of the Golf Cart Scammer: Date of Stupidity on my Part: 15 Jan 2008
I have quite a file on this person or persons involved in this scam, of which I myself was a victim for the amount stated by others--Me? $2800. I even had a local bank involved in the transaction. Here are the similarities:
(1) the address of the Golf Cart location was Billings MT
(2) The seller was purportedly a USA Guardsman on his way to Iraq.
(3) He was not contactable by phone due to his training location prior to deployment.
(4) eBay "phishing" email was used to lend credibility to the transaction.
(5) Payment was to be made to "Trusted Agent" via Pay Pal, guaranteed by eBay. The location of 'that' eBay regional was the same ZIP and location in San Jose, CA.
(6) A Fax number was given to fax the copies of the Pay Pal receipt. (This Fax number given, was a 'relay' fax located in Atlas, Tx, near Houston.
(7) Shipment of the Golf Cart was to be via DAS and deliverable in 5-7 days.
(8) The names of the Seller (Craigslist) and Trusted Agent (eBay) are aliased each time the ad is re-posted. email addresses used by the scammer was a Yahoo address, which is hard to trace.
(9) I reported to all law enforcement channels: IC3 (FBI) website; the FCPA; FTC;State Atty General; and my local Sheriff's Office (Fraud Complaint). None of these agencies ever replied except for receipt of my complaint.
(10) Once the pay pal Money Orders were purchased, and the receipts faxed, the scammer takes the faxed receipt to any Pay Pal location and shows it to the Pay Pal clerk, and is paid the face amount of the M.O. No ID is required to receive payment. Pay Pal will not divulge even the location of their street address where the payout was made.
(11) I have a lot of documentation I'm willing to share with anyone or group who would like to nail these perps. Problem is getting law enforcement/legal people in the state where the fraud was commited to help out.
(12) With a little help I think I have sufficient paper trail to nab these crooks

Please feel free to reply or dialogue if interested. Redcliff92

Windjammer
14 May 2009, 01:32
from Arthuro Lucero <arthurolucero@gmail.com>
reply-to arthurolucero@gmail.com
date Wed, May 13, 2009
subject Buyer has responded to your question about item 6831805721

http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/logos/ebay_95x39.gif e.Bay sent this message from Arthuro Lucero (art.lucero).
Your registered name is included to show this message originated from e.Bay. Learn More.


Bu.yer has responded to your question about this item.

Do not respond to the sender if this message requests that you complete the transaction outside of e.Bay. This type of offer is against e.Bay policy, may be fraudulent, and is not covered by buyer protection programs. Learn More

Question from art.lucero
art.lucero (772)
Positive feedback: 100.0%
Member since: Apr-12-01
Location: New York, United States of America
Registered on: www.ebay.com

Hi, I am interested on your item you sell. Can you please tell me more about it? Please contact me asap! Answer the question
http://gbc.com.pk/skin1/mail/html/Singln

Item URL:
xxxxxxxxxxxx


Return-Path: <arthurolucero@gmail.com>
Received: from mail.onlinetour.co.kr ([211.174.55.102])
by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 27si1247796wfa.22.2009.05.13.16.25.14;
Wed, 13 May 2009 16:25:15 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 211.174.55.102 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of arthurolucero@gmail.com) client-ip=211.174.55.102;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 211.174.55.102 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of arthurolucero@gmail.com) smtp.mail=arthurolucero@gmail.com
Message-Id: <4a0b56db.1b018e0a.1259.ffff9b67SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com>
Received: from [80.68.33.59] ([80.68.33.59])
by mail.onlinetour.co.kr ([211.174.55.102])
with ESMTP id 2009051408:25:22:656790.2875.110594992
Thu, 14 May 2009 08:25:04 +0900 (KST)
Reply-To: <arthurolucero@gmail.com>
From: "Arthuro Lucero"<arthurolucero@gmail.com>
Subject: Buyer has responded to your question about item 6831805721
X-TERRACE-DUMMYSUBJECT: Terrace Mail System
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 00:25:36 +0100
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html;
charset="Windows-1251"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-TERRACE-SPAMMARK: WHITE (SR:12.74)
(by Terrace)

.