ScamtheScammers
23 December 2007, 06:07
Tonight I had the pleasure of speaking with a Katherina Craig. The following conversation was simply in jest and to see how far a scammer will go with their lies.
Myself as the dear, yet poor, Jenny Holtz
And the infamous puppy scammer being played by a scammer from Amsterdam!
The saga begins with a search for free yorkies on google. I end up on Ad Flakes which brings me to http://kcraig011.member.adflakes.com/ She or He has quite a few ad's and I pick one to respond to. Send off a quick email asking if the puppy was still available and got a classic "The puppies are this big and just adorable and oh they need a home so bad" response right back. We then moved the conversation to IM. The conversation is as follows:
Katherina Craig: hello
Jenny Holtz: Hi!
Jenny Holtz: How are you tonight!
Jenny Holtz:
Katherina Craig: i am doing fine and you?
Jenny Holtz: Oh hanging in there! I don't know where you live, but where I am at
it is COLD!
Jenny Holtz:
Katherina Craig: okay great
Katherina Craig: i am presently in St.alberta cameroon island which i will be
transporting the puppies from here to your home
Jenny Holtz: Oh I see! What are you doing there?
Katherina Craig: i am presently here due to studies okay
Jenny Holtz: Oh okay!
Katherina Craig: so when are you ready to have this puppies?
Jenny Holtz: Well I thought you wanted to know a little about me first?
Katherina Craig: true and i willreally love to
Jenny Holtz: Wonderful!
Jenny Holtz: What would you like to know!
Jenny Holtz: ?
Katherina Craig: have you any pet care experience
Jenny Holtz: No I do not.
Jenny Holtz: I have never had a pet before
Jenny Holtz: Hello?
Katherina Craig: yes
Katherina Craig: how old are you?
Jenny Holtz: 25
Katherina Craig: married?
Katherina Craig: with kids
Jenny Holtz: No
Jenny Holtz: Single
Katherina Craig: still living with your parents?
Jenny Holtz: No
Jenny Holtz: Apartment
Katherina Craig: What do you do for a leaving?
Jenny Holtz: I work at McDonalds
Jenny Holtz: and at TAco Bell
Katherina Craig: i am sorry for this questions but hope you should understand
why i ask all this right
Jenny Holtz: Well of course!
Katherina Craig: So let me know when you are ready to have this puppies
Katherina Craig: and which sex you want
Jenny Holtz: How many puppies do you have?
Katherina Craig: 2 which they are both male and female called Kelly and Sparky
Jenny Holtz: Oh okay
Jenny Holtz: I would like both
Jenny Holtz: Now I don't have a backyard...all I have is a the front of my house
and that is a road
Jenny Holtz: I would have to tie them to my front door
Jenny Holtz: to let them out
Katherina Craig: i am very happy you prove out your truth
Katherina Craig: and i will be very happy to give the puppies to you
Jenny Holtz: Really!?
Jenny Holtz: That is wonderful!
Jenny Holtz: Now I cannot afford dog food
Jenny Holtz: I can only feed them with leftover mcdonalds and leftover taco bell
Katherina Craig: thats okay
Jenny Holtz: oh good
Katherina Craig: it will be possible for you to spend this christmas with them
but all will depend on you
Jenny Holtz: And during the day I would have to let my neighbors watch them
during the day
Jenny Holtz: but they like to knife fight a lot...
Jenny Holtz: I just want to be honest with you
Jenny Holtz:
Jenny Holtz:
Katherina Craig: i am sorry you make me scared
Katherina Craig: thats high risk
Katherina Craig: So what do you think you will do?
Jenny Holtz: It's either that or I will let them stay with my uncle who is
studying to be a taxidermist
Jenny Holtz: I don't know!
Katherina Craig: thats better
Jenny Holtz: No!
Jenny Holtz: He likes to practice on animals all of the time!
Jenny Holtz: They are safer with the knife fighters!
Jenny Holtz: I don't know...I mean it is such a good deal...I think I have to
have them!
Katherina Craig: okay Jenny
Jenny Holtz: And one more thing, at night I don't have a cage for them so I
would have to keep them in a kitchen drawer when I go to bed
Jenny Holtz: They are tiny enough for that right?
Katherina Craig: as you can see on their picture
Katherina Craig: You can have them as soon as you can provide their
transportation fee
Jenny Holtz: Are these dogs known for hunting?
Jenny Holtz: Just a quick question...
Katherina Craig: oh no
Jenny Holtz: I kind of have a cockroach infestation....
Katherina Craig: there are home companions
Katherina Craig: but are very sentiment
Jenny Holtz: there are a LOT or roaches...and I just want them to be safe at
night in the drawer
Katherina Craig: not to boarder all will be fine
Katherina Craig: Were are you located?
Jenny Holtz: boarder?
Jenny Holtz: Sorry I don't know what you mean
Katherina Craig: what is your state? city?
Jenny Holtz: I am talking about in my house! There are roaches and sometimes an
occasional rat...
Jenny Holtz: I live in NM
Jenny Holtz: So I need your honest opinion....
Jenny Holtz: will they be able to fight the roaches?
Jenny Holtz:
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Jenny Holtz: That is how big they are
Katherina Craig: they will be able to fight them
Jenny Holtz: Oh good
Katherina Craig: So when are you ready for the puppies?
Jenny Holtz: and one last thing...This is a picture of the rats I caught....
Jenny Holtz: http://community.travelchinaguide.com/photo/5110/51105135935442.jpg
Jenny Holtz: Will they be able to fight them...
Katherina Craig: Just have them home and you will know their importants
Jenny Holtz: I don't understand...
Jenny Holtz: Will they be able to fight the rats?
Jenny Holtz: I need to know
Jenny Holtz: if they can then great!
Jenny Holtz: But if not...
Jenny Holtz:
Katherina Craig: they will fight the rats
Jenny Holtz: WONDERFUL!
Katherina Craig: Can i have a contact phone number?
Katherina Craig: with your full house address?
Jenny Holtz: Hold on....
Katherina Craig: hello
Katherina Craig: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jenny Holtz: I am getting it!
Jenny Holtz: WOW
Jenny Holtz: Hold your horses!
Katherina Craig: okay
Jenny Holtz: Still there?
Katherina Craig: yes
Jenny Holtz: Katherine (baring in mind that's not your real name) its been great talking to you. Its nice to know that someone can be so committed, even to a pack of lies. This conversation will be saved and cherished along with being published on an online fraud community, to make people aware of scammers and thieves like yourself. Congratulations on your new publicity! Have a nice night!
[Enter Vulgarity Here]
So that was my night. It was great. Katherina, we went through a lot tonight but man, it was grand. Happy Holidays Scammer. Sorry you didn't make that sale! Or not...
***FYI***
None of the personal information used here is correct: Name, Location, Etc.
I have not and would not do any of the above mentioned things to an animal and merely wanted to see if this person would really send a dog into those types of conditions. Thanks!
Myself as the dear, yet poor, Jenny Holtz
And the infamous puppy scammer being played by a scammer from Amsterdam!
The saga begins with a search for free yorkies on google. I end up on Ad Flakes which brings me to http://kcraig011.member.adflakes.com/ She or He has quite a few ad's and I pick one to respond to. Send off a quick email asking if the puppy was still available and got a classic "The puppies are this big and just adorable and oh they need a home so bad" response right back. We then moved the conversation to IM. The conversation is as follows:
Katherina Craig: hello
Jenny Holtz: Hi!
Jenny Holtz: How are you tonight!
Jenny Holtz:
Katherina Craig: i am doing fine and you?
Jenny Holtz: Oh hanging in there! I don't know where you live, but where I am at
it is COLD!
Jenny Holtz:
Katherina Craig: okay great
Katherina Craig: i am presently in St.alberta cameroon island which i will be
transporting the puppies from here to your home
Jenny Holtz: Oh I see! What are you doing there?
Katherina Craig: i am presently here due to studies okay
Jenny Holtz: Oh okay!
Katherina Craig: so when are you ready to have this puppies?
Jenny Holtz: Well I thought you wanted to know a little about me first?
Katherina Craig: true and i willreally love to
Jenny Holtz: Wonderful!
Jenny Holtz: What would you like to know!
Jenny Holtz: ?
Katherina Craig: have you any pet care experience
Jenny Holtz: No I do not.
Jenny Holtz: I have never had a pet before
Jenny Holtz: Hello?
Katherina Craig: yes
Katherina Craig: how old are you?
Jenny Holtz: 25
Katherina Craig: married?
Katherina Craig: with kids
Jenny Holtz: No
Jenny Holtz: Single
Katherina Craig: still living with your parents?
Jenny Holtz: No
Jenny Holtz: Apartment
Katherina Craig: What do you do for a leaving?
Jenny Holtz: I work at McDonalds
Jenny Holtz: and at TAco Bell
Katherina Craig: i am sorry for this questions but hope you should understand
why i ask all this right
Jenny Holtz: Well of course!
Katherina Craig: So let me know when you are ready to have this puppies
Katherina Craig: and which sex you want
Jenny Holtz: How many puppies do you have?
Katherina Craig: 2 which they are both male and female called Kelly and Sparky
Jenny Holtz: Oh okay
Jenny Holtz: I would like both
Jenny Holtz: Now I don't have a backyard...all I have is a the front of my house
and that is a road
Jenny Holtz: I would have to tie them to my front door
Jenny Holtz: to let them out
Katherina Craig: i am very happy you prove out your truth
Katherina Craig: and i will be very happy to give the puppies to you
Jenny Holtz: Really!?
Jenny Holtz: That is wonderful!
Jenny Holtz: Now I cannot afford dog food
Jenny Holtz: I can only feed them with leftover mcdonalds and leftover taco bell
Katherina Craig: thats okay
Jenny Holtz: oh good
Katherina Craig: it will be possible for you to spend this christmas with them
but all will depend on you
Jenny Holtz: And during the day I would have to let my neighbors watch them
during the day
Jenny Holtz: but they like to knife fight a lot...
Jenny Holtz: I just want to be honest with you
Jenny Holtz:
Jenny Holtz:
Katherina Craig: i am sorry you make me scared
Katherina Craig: thats high risk
Katherina Craig: So what do you think you will do?
Jenny Holtz: It's either that or I will let them stay with my uncle who is
studying to be a taxidermist
Jenny Holtz: I don't know!
Katherina Craig: thats better
Jenny Holtz: No!
Jenny Holtz: He likes to practice on animals all of the time!
Jenny Holtz: They are safer with the knife fighters!
Jenny Holtz: I don't know...I mean it is such a good deal...I think I have to
have them!
Katherina Craig: okay Jenny
Jenny Holtz: And one more thing, at night I don't have a cage for them so I
would have to keep them in a kitchen drawer when I go to bed
Jenny Holtz: They are tiny enough for that right?
Katherina Craig: as you can see on their picture
Katherina Craig: You can have them as soon as you can provide their
transportation fee
Jenny Holtz: Are these dogs known for hunting?
Jenny Holtz: Just a quick question...
Katherina Craig: oh no
Jenny Holtz: I kind of have a cockroach infestation....
Katherina Craig: there are home companions
Katherina Craig: but are very sentiment
Jenny Holtz: there are a LOT or roaches...and I just want them to be safe at
night in the drawer
Katherina Craig: not to boarder all will be fine
Katherina Craig: Were are you located?
Jenny Holtz: boarder?
Jenny Holtz: Sorry I don't know what you mean
Katherina Craig: what is your state? city?
Jenny Holtz: I am talking about in my house! There are roaches and sometimes an
occasional rat...
Jenny Holtz: I live in NM
Jenny Holtz: So I need your honest opinion....
Jenny Holtz: will they be able to fight the roaches?
Jenny Holtz:
http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/966/55045919.JPG
03.jpg
Jenny Holtz: That is how big they are
Katherina Craig: they will be able to fight them
Jenny Holtz: Oh good
Katherina Craig: So when are you ready for the puppies?
Jenny Holtz: and one last thing...This is a picture of the rats I caught....
Jenny Holtz: http://community.travelchinaguide.com/photo/5110/51105135935442.jpg
Jenny Holtz: Will they be able to fight them...
Katherina Craig: Just have them home and you will know their importants
Jenny Holtz: I don't understand...
Jenny Holtz: Will they be able to fight the rats?
Jenny Holtz: I need to know
Jenny Holtz: if they can then great!
Jenny Holtz: But if not...
Jenny Holtz:
Katherina Craig: they will fight the rats
Jenny Holtz: WONDERFUL!
Katherina Craig: Can i have a contact phone number?
Katherina Craig: with your full house address?
Jenny Holtz: Hold on....
Katherina Craig: hello
Katherina Craig: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jenny Holtz: I am getting it!
Jenny Holtz: WOW
Jenny Holtz: Hold your horses!
Katherina Craig: okay
Jenny Holtz: Still there?
Katherina Craig: yes
Jenny Holtz: Katherine (baring in mind that's not your real name) its been great talking to you. Its nice to know that someone can be so committed, even to a pack of lies. This conversation will be saved and cherished along with being published on an online fraud community, to make people aware of scammers and thieves like yourself. Congratulations on your new publicity! Have a nice night!
[Enter Vulgarity Here]
So that was my night. It was great. Katherina, we went through a lot tonight but man, it was grand. Happy Holidays Scammer. Sorry you didn't make that sale! Or not...
***FYI***
None of the personal information used here is correct: Name, Location, Etc.
I have not and would not do any of the above mentioned things to an animal and merely wanted to see if this person would really send a dog into those types of conditions. Thanks!