50,000.00

[esthersepulveda]

Dear whiney,
How are you today? As regards my mail to you,I own a company in the China which is into export of raw materials to other companies especially in Europe and america.We normally encounter problems when been paid, because it takes a while for America checks to clear here in the China so this has prompted me to search for a payment agent in America who would stand on behalf of my company.Presently,we are been owed over $210,000 dollars and the company in question has agreed to begin installmental payment.If you are willing to assist,you would be paid 10% of the total sum you collect on behalf of my company.
All you have to do is send me your full names,detailed mailing address,telephone and fax numbers, Once you have done this,I would instruct the company to send the check to you which you would deposit into your account.When the check clears you would then pay the balance (after you have deducted your fee )into an account which I shall provide for you.Note that the info you shall provide shall be subject to final approval because I am skeptical of the high rate of internet fraud going on these days.You can visit our website http://www.cmieczj.com to view our products. On our receipt of your mail we will inform you on the next step to follow as regards our approval for you to being our representative.
I shall await your urgent response

Best Regards,
Cheng LEE
vice president(cmiec zj)
www.cmieczj.com

[esthersepulveda]

TERMS AND CONDITIONS
Dear Sir/Madam,
You don't have to purchase a ticket to enter this lottery, your email indicating
you as a winner in the lottery programs held by the EUROMILLION LOTTERY was
received. Your email address was selected through the computer ballot system
from the average collection of over 60,000.000.00. Sixtymillion email addresses,
your email address attached to a single ticket was found as one of the lucky
email address that emerge from the first category to have won the sum of
1,000.000.00, One million united state dollars, the information was passed to
you by the lottery coordinator to ensure that we are in contact with the
rightful owner of the winning email address to avoid double claiming.
To commence on the processing of your Winning Prize as your claim agent, you are
advised to provide us with the following information:
(1) Your Full Name
(2) Your Complete Address
(3) Telephone/ Fax numbers
Upon receipt of the above information, we shall send to you via fax/email
attachment the PRIZE CLAIM FORM which you will fill in your particulars and send
back to this office. Upon receipt of "Prize Claim Form" from you, we shall
officially apply for the claim of your winning prize and upon verification by
the Lottery coordinator; they will send us a "Release Order" confirming you as
the bona-fide winner. Form B6 (Payment Scheme) will also be send to you,
requesting you to indication your preferred mode of payment as soon as we have
the release order. AND YOU WILL BE INVITED TO SIGN THE RELEASE DOCUMENT, as well
as the certificate of award to be presented to you.
The form B6 must be completed and return back to us and the processing of your
claim will be completed within four (4) working days and subsequently you will
receive the total sum of ($1,000,000.00) One million Unite! d States Dollars.
Finally, if you are satisfied with our terms and conditions, please do indicate
by sending us the necessary information as required above to enable us commence
the processing of your claim.
Good luck.
Best Regards,
Mr. Mark Bruna
(PAYMENT DIRECTOR)
NB: YOU CAN DIAL 0032 AS THE INTERNATIONAL COUNTRY CODE NUMBER FOR BELGIUM, IF
YOU ARE CALLING FROM THE U.S, DIAL 011 AS THE ACCESS CODE BEFORE 32 AND FOLLOW
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[esthersepulveda]

[I gota real 50,000.oo check and my bank would not take it.
=esthersepulveda]Dear whiney,
How are you today? As regards my mail to you,I own a company in the China which is into export of raw materials to other companies especially in Europe and america.We normally encounter problems when been paid, because it takes a while for America checks to clear here in the China so this has prompted me to search for a payment agent in America who would stand on behalf of my company.Presently,we are been owed over $210,000 dollars and the company in question has agreed to begin installmental payment.If you are willing to assist,you would be paid 10% of the total sum you collect on behalf of my company.
All you have to do is send me your full names,detailed mailing address,telephone and fax numbers, Once you have done this,I would instruct the company to send the check to you which you would deposit into your account.When the check clears you would then pay the balance (after you have deducted your fee )into an account which I shall provide for you.Note that the info you shall provide shall be subject to final approval because I am skeptical of the high rate of internet fraud going on these days.You can visit our website http://www.cmieczj.com to view our products. On our receipt of your mail we will inform you on the next step to follow as regards our approval for you to being our representative.
I shall await your urgent response

Best Regards,
Cheng LEE
vice president(cmiec zj)
www.cmieczj.com[/QUOTE]

[breccia]

Hi estersepulvida and welcome to the forum. The check that you received is very likely a fake check, which is why your bank rejected it, and this is a blessing.

The email you were sent is a 419 representative scam. More information on this type of email scam can be found in this article on our website:

http://fraudwatchers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=257

Essentially, what the scammers ask is for you to deposit a check, and wire them back some amount, whilst keeping a small percentage for yourself. In reality, the check they send you to deposit, is a fake check. So if the bank had accepted it and cleared it, and you had sent money on it, you would be in a world of legal trouble. Fortunately your bank seems to be on the alert, so this is a wonderful and fortunate turn of events.

Once again, welcome to the website! :)

[jesusalvarado1]

Hello, What are you going to do about this business with China? What I have been doing to fight back with these people; is that I agree to there terms, and when I received their checks, or money orders, than I just turn them over to the FBI along with all of their emails. J.R.

[John Fairheart]

jesusalvarado1,

May I point you to our own FAQ, which go a long way into answering some questions you have.

http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/faq.php?faq=fw_faq_main#faq_new_8
We are not law enforcement, though some of our members may be police officers fraudwatchers.org is not an official law enforcement group, nor are we related to any. We are all volunteers, doing this in our spare time. Unfortunately many of these scammers are in Nigeria and arrests there are few and far between, but we do have a very good relationship with the South African police and many scammers are arrested in that country. As time goes on and they become more successful, some of them leave their home country and base themselves in places like the United Kingdom, the USA, South Africa, Amsterdam, Ireland, Australia, Indonesia, Hong Kong, and various other countries. It is easier to get an arrest in some of these places and the authorities are usually not able to be bribed, so this is much more risky for the scammers.
With regards to China specifically, some Money Employment scammers to reside there (Nigerian nationals), and the chances of getting the Chinese authorities involved is slim to none.

Fighting back is all well and good, which is why we are here, though if you are having cheques delivered to your own business, work or residential address you are advised to stop doing so.

Giving acquired dodgy cheques to the authorities is the correct thing to do, however please remember that the senders are international criminals with contacts in each continent.

If you have further questions, please ask.

[Nyla]

I would like to echo what John just wrote, and also point out that should certain authorities suspect or find that you're receiving fraudulent checks, there might be a some unpleasant explaining to be done on your part. Postal inspectors come to mind. Technically, simply being in possession of a forged instrument is a violation of the law in many places. You could actually find yourself brought up on charges for doing so.

Best to get the FBI to provide you with a mailing address that is in no way traceable to you, where someone agrees to collect them for investigation. The field office mailing address would probably work, as scammers generaly do not research the address you give them initially. Also, I do hope you're not using your personal email address, any personal information or real name in order to "bait" these check scammers. As John pointed out, these gangs often have members all over the world, including Europe and North America, and they are criminals who can be dangerous.

You might be interested in checking out some of the many "scambaiting" sites on the internet, if you haven't already. These sites can teach you how to do what you're doing safely and anonymously. Two that are highly recommended are www.419eater.com and www.scambaits.com

Baiting can be an effective, even fun, way to fight back against scammers in some form. But scammers are definitely not worth risking your personal safety over. Not when there are so many resources for finding out how to do it safely and anonymously. Hope you're baiting safely, jesusalvarado1!